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Dwarf Puffers coexisting with snail population?
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:49 pm
by Chaser
Hi!
Just recently fell in love with carinotetraodon travancoricus, and are doing my due diligence.
I were wondering what experiences people have had introducing the dwarfs to heavily planted tanks with existing snail populations?
I have tadpole and gyraulus acronicus (small ramshorn?)-snails in budding populations.
I have 300 liters 120x50x50 cm where half is heavily planted and other lightly planted, and hope to keep both snails and 2-3 DP.
Otherwise have endlers, CPD and neocaridina-mix, as well as two not too longfinned bettas. They can be seen meeting in top of this picture of the well planted half:
For full size picture, and more of them, visit my forum-blog (in Norwegian). This one is in post # 97 on this page:
http://akvaforum.no/forum.cfm?thread_id ... r=1&msr=81
Re: Dwarf Puffers coexisting with snail population?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:27 am
by Pufferpunk
Snail-eating puffers will decimate snail populations in their tanks. They will nip at the fins of most fish.
Re: Dwarf Puffers coexisting with snail population?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:41 pm
by Chaser
Do you actually mean eradicate? Decimate would be fine, as that would remove one out of ten
I hadn't given up hope as I've read several accounts of dwarfs living peacefully with several types of tankmates. The key seemed to be heavy planted, big tank and enough food to keep them happy every day. As I have the two first a live snail-colony in the tank are the bottom line for me; I don't want the eventual dwarves to go after my other inhabitants if they were several days without food, as will occationaly happen.
Your reply, though lacking in new data, seems to come from a very experienced dwarf-keeper so I'll put it on the already heavy DON'T DO IT-side of the scale. Thank you for you answer, and thank you for your efforts to spread good info on puffers!
Still interested in gathering a broad data-collection, so will be happy for any more answers

Re: Dwarf Puffers coexisting with snail population?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:05 pm
by sgtmyers88
I had a ten gallon tank overrun with snails. I placed a single Dwarf Puffer in there and the population was reduced to marginal levels in a week.
Re: Dwarf Puffers coexisting with snail population?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:02 pm
by pufferjw
The CPDs should be fine, but all of the other fish will most likely be attacked by the DPs.
Re: Dwarf Puffers coexisting with snail population?
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:53 pm
by Pufferpunk
Chaser wrote:Do you actually mean eradicate? Decimate would be fine, as that would remove one out of ten
Simple Definition of decimate
: to destroy a large number of (plants, animals, people, etc.)
: to severely damage or destroy a large part of (something)
Re: Dwarf Puffers coexisting with snail population?
Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:15 am
by Chaser
Origins of the expression decimate (deca = 10) are with the roman legions, where a severe punishment was to kill one of ten soldiers in a unit. Suits your definitions also, as 10% can be a rather large part, especially when considering they are your brothers in arms. The use of the word obviously has become less precise over the millennia

But your answer still leaves open the possibility that a population of snails will survive in parts of the tank mostly inaccessible to the dwarfs and thus provide a continous food supply.
I'm overly fond of words and etymology, so I'm not trying to argue. Just enjoying myself
Would still love to hear from anyone with this experience in a planted tank! Thank you all for your answers so far!!
Re: Dwarf Puffers coexisting with snail population?
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:32 pm
by bertie 83
The snails will not last, there will be no areas for them to hide. They will be eradicated as will any other fish you choose to house with them