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Puffer Identification

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:27 am
by kikukku
Well hello guys, im back online after 5 years LOL
I wanna share something, but first thing first, i wanna ask about puffer ID

Here is one good pic of my new un-identified puffer

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or
Link: http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc11 ... l2dasp.jpg

Could you help me ID it?
They look like abei, but mine doesnt have circle spot on their belly just like abei. They have pure white belly.
I got them from Sumatra-Indonesia's fisherman, and the one captured them said that this is his first time caught this kind of puffer (well i dont know whether i got deceived or not)

Ok thank you :D

EDIT: i forgot something, this is pure freshwater and no need adding fish-salt

EDIT2: Add some pictures
*i will reupload them

side view
side&bottom view (there is no spot under it's belly)
tail view (there is no red spot near it's tail)
AND today, i found she/he guards the eggs :D

3 Days Old Eggs
I see eyes inside the eggs :D
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Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:19 am
by Pufferpunk
It looks like the FW Spotted Congo puffer, Tetraodon schoutedeni, is making a comeback! How much were these?

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 11:04 pm
by kikukku
Pufferpunk wrote:It looks like the FW Spotted Congo puffer, Tetraodon schoutedeni, is making a comeback! How much were these?
I mean, these puffers are endemic to Sumatera-Indonesia (SE Asia). Are they possibly a new Species?
They cost me 5bucks each.

Just for information: from 5 puffers i have, 1 of them swims like T.Palembangensis (bottom swimmer) and is the alpha male/female, while the other floating in the middle/upper.

I'll get another pic soon. But it seems that the pic that i posted is gone eh?

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 11:29 pm
by Pufferpunk
No new species here--just haven't been available in the aquarium trade in over 30 years.

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:16 am
by Corvus
Although, T. schoutedeni is back in trade, the puffers in this thread are NOT T. schoutedeni, but Pao leiurus (formerly Tetraodon leiurus or Monotrete leiurus) or a closely related species. Still a rare find in trade.

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:09 pm
by pufferjw
Corvus is right, I actually saw a T. schoutedeni on aquabid not too long ago. Also, are you sure those are P. leiurus? They usually have a big spot near their tail.

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:26 pm
by Corvus
No, interestingly the original specimens of P. leiurus as far as I know had no specific eye spots. Specimens later referred to this species had eye spots, but those are considered other long snouted, closely related species now.

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 4:48 am
by kikukku
Hello guys, back again lol
I put some new pic above under EDIT2

I don't think it is a P. leiurus as it has no red spot right?

I found the very exact same picture as mine through google and here is the link ( may i post external link? please remind me)
h**p://www.kugelfischforum.de/index.php?id=fis ... no_cache=1
But they also state it as Monotrete leiurus.

And by the way, I found a puffer guard the eggs this morning :D
It chase all 3 puffer that come near him/her, i hope they can hatch and i can raise them well.

I wil make another thread on breeding puffer soon

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:17 am
by Corvus
Interestingly the original specimens of P. leiurus as far as I know had no specific eye spots. You puffers look like them.

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:49 pm
by kikukku
Updated on first post with image

Counting days to hatch :D

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:04 am
by Pufferpunk
Oh wow, I see all the eyes! Can you repost under Puffer Breeding, here?

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:20 am
by Corvus
Image

Here's the (probably) first picture of leiurus from Pieter Bleeker. No eye spot.

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:06 pm
by Pufferpunk
Did they hatch?

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:04 am
by kikukku
Sory for late reply, been busy with life :D

They hatch (begin to moves) at day 8, and free swimming at day 9. As of today (day 11), they are able to eat daphnia already
Very much bigger than fahaka's fry at the same age
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And the image corvus post so much like mine, maybe they were t.leiurus actually

So i wonder: if they're able to breed in freshwater, they ARE definetly freswater puffer aren't they?

Re: Puffer Identification

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:24 am
by Pufferpunk
T.leiurus ARE FW puffers.