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green spotted puffer dying help :(

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:15 pm
by puffysr
I took home 6 spotted puffers from walmart a couple days ago. There was a dead one in the tank, their fins were broken (I thought rotting but later I figured they probably nipped it off each other). They had some small white spots and I bought some medication, I thought I could nurse them back to health in a simple tank (I had also bought a 1 gallon pet carrier temporarily until I could get something bigger. I didn't realize how much space they needed though, I was thinking they are so small just like 2 cm I didn't even think they would need something more than maybe 10 gallons. Now, I plan to get a larger tank this weekend (at least 20-50 gallon, depending on what I can get on craigslist). I'm trying to find something under $100-200.

Sadly one has died which was my fault, I overfed them, didn't change the water, the night before I had tried feeding them flakes. I went out for a few hours and when I came back the water was very dirty. I felt very sad about his death and I am trying to find a place to bury him. I felt horrible that he died because of the water and regret not changing the water. I was thinking I'll just change it when I get back and I didn't realize how bad it was. I promised myself after that that I will try my best to take care of the remaining 5 or find someone who can.

Anyways, another one is sick and I don't know what to do. There is a red sore on his tail. He doesn't look good. I tried to drop blood worms near him and he puffed up. I got scared and turned off the light hoping that would calm him down. Today I tried to change the water and he puffed up again. His fins are very bad. He barely moves. I don't know why he is sick - is it because the other puffers bit him? Or did I not treat him correctly. I don't know if he's sick because he was bitten or because he has an infection - can someone help me diagnose what's wrong with him? See the picture below - I tried to attach a picture to this post I hope you can see it.
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I crushed a pill of lifeguard fish medication (it says to give one per 5 gallon tank for 5 days in a row), and tried to give a little piece per day since the amount of water is much less, but it's hard to measure and he hasn't healed yet. I don't know how he got sick. I've been changing the water 2-3x a day now. I tried dropping some bloodworms in there and if he doesn't eat I will change the water.

I don't have a good tank right now or much fish accessories and I'm just keeping him in a small quarantine fish bowl until I can buy a bigger tank.

I didn't realize the care that they needed. When I was younger we had an aquarium in my house but my dad and brother took care of it. I thought it was a fish I could keep in a small tank. I'm working on setting up a bigger tank but in the meantime I don't really have much I can use now.

Re: green spotted puffer dying help :(

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:14 am
by Pufferpunk
[welcome]
I know they're cute faces are really hard to resist, but even most expert fishkeepers know better than to think they can do well with a fish from a sick tank with dead fish in there. Most of us would walk away & never go back. Unfortunately, 90% of people wind up finding this site because of such Walmart purchases. Please start reading these articles & then you can ask more questions about your situation:
library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
library/water-filtration/emergencycycle/
library/hospital/internal-parasites-pre ... treatment/
library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/

Re: green spotted puffer dying help :(

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:27 am
by puffysr
Thanks I've been reading some info online.

Is there anything that I can do immediately for the puffer? He's isolated in a small fishbowl and doesn't move or eat. The water is clean and I'm trying to change it 2x a day at least. I put a drop of chlorine remover and a little salt (although it's hard to measure it). There isn't anything else in there and I'm just going to try to keep the water clean for now. In the meantime I don't have much materials, just salt chlorine remover so I have to keep the water clean manually.

I don't want him to die :( But he looks in very bad shape. Is there any medication I should give him? He's been in a small cup for a couple days and not moving :( I don't know what to do.

This weekend I'm going to try to get a larger aquarium for the other 4. I'm been looking at a 55 gallon tank with complete acessories but they are more expensive $200, I might start with a smaller 10g one for $30 for a couple weeks. Or maybe a 40 gallon one for around $150. In the meantime I'm changing their water 2x a day or so, after feeding.

And the sick one I might move to the gallon carrier (he doesn't move so it's plenty of space for him).

Re: green spotted puffer dying help :(

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:07 am
by Pufferpunk
Forget about "other" online info. The best info on the net is right here! Top pufferkeepers in the field here. ;)

Even changing the water 2x/day isn't enough in a cup. He needs to be in a larger cycled system, to prevent it from poisoning itself with it's own wastes. If you read the articles I linked you to, you'll realize a 55g isn't going to be their final destination. I feat they will not last until the weekend as they are now. :(

BTW, rescuing puffers from a store like this only tells them people will buy anything, no matter how poorly they are neglected. This just causes them to restock back into those diseased, unhealthy systems. You aren't helping their cause at all, I'm afraid.

Re: green spotted puffer dying help :(

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:20 am
by puffysr
Right now he's not making any waste :( He doesn't eat and doesn't move but sometimes he tries to move his fins in place and his tail is curled. The water is clear.
Can someone tell if he has an infection and needs to be treated or is there nothing I can do? What is wrong with him? :(
The other 4 seem ok but have some dark spots on their bodies.

Re: green spotted puffer dying help :(

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:01 pm
by Dadof4
Fish make waste continuously. They have kidneys too and poop isn't the only waste. Get him out of the bowl and in to a cycled system, like PP said, if you want to give him any chance of survival. Also these fish are best kept in singles, they will destroy each other if left together. The picture you're showing shows a very emaciated fish, potentially with IP's, with severe fin rot. The best course of treatment is to use garlic soaked food to get him eating and getting him in to pristine water of a cycled tank.

Re: green spotted puffer dying help :(

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:20 am
by sarahpuff
Do you have the puffer in brackish water? Or is it in fresh? These puffers need brackish water. Walmart, Petco, Petsmart shouldn't be selling these puffers. I would say get a 40 gal for now. The puffer is most like going to die, its been in the care of walmart.

Re: green spotted puffer dying help :(

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:10 am
by Powerpuff
I need to know if when a puffers tail bows inward is he dying. My puffer has been in a hosp tank for 5 days recieving antibiotics. I fear the fight is over. I've had georgie for 7 years and I am extremely sad to say goodbye. Is he in pain? Should I just let him go or put him to sleep by placing him in the freezer. I understand that he will just go to sleep. I dont want him to suffer. That's my boy.

Re: green spotted puffer dying help :(

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:04 am
by Pufferpunk
So sad to hear this. :(

Please repost this in the Hospital Forum & answer ALL the questions in red at the top of the page, so we can better diagnose the issue.