OMG!!! Please HELP!!!!
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
OMG!!! Please HELP!!!!
My GSP is really sick, she wont move - shes breathing hard and I've attached a picture. My water parameters are within normal limits - and her last meal was shrimp - though she ate waay too much. She ate the other puffers dinner last night - there was nothing I could do. Could she be 'stopped up'? My other GSP is fine. Im sooo worried!! This just happened this afternoon.download/file.php?mode=view&id=6109
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Re: OMG!!! Please HELP!!!!
Try adding 1 tbsp/5g of Epsom salt, if you think it's constipation.
It would help if you answered ALL the Qs above, in red, though.
It would help if you answered ALL the Qs above, in red, though.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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The aquarium has been set up for years. Ive run out of test strips but I just did our regularly scheduled water change.... so I'm assuming water quality is within normal parameters. Its a 40 gal with 2 GSPs. Ive almost finished their new 100 gal so this is bad timing for Olivia to get sick and pass. I fed them shrimp last night but she was unusually piggish and ate more than her share. She was fine this morning and looked like this when I came home form work today. I did what you said and added Epsom salts - at least it's an attempt. She's on her side now and I've been holding her up so her gill isn't in the sand. I'm so sad. The other GSP is fine. I just dont know.
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And she's about 7 years old. I don't know the life span of a GSP but I thought it was linger than that.
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So Olivia was terribly bloated and I read a forum about burping a puffer that has taken in air. I know that she likes to bite at the surface of the water so I gave this a try... and she released a LOT of air and "vomit" and her tummy went way down. Poor thing, I may be starving her now. But she still rolls on to her side.
Then I saw this post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1292 regarding a "sudden puffer death syndrome" and when they described the blanching of the skin, it sounded like my Olivia. So I did what the post said and added the correct dosage of Melafix to see how that may help. I read about it this "syndrome" more on the web and it sounds horrible... and no one knows the cause. The blanching on Olivia is much worse - almost completely white now with a little darkness on her underside... but she's still breathing. Were hanging in there.
Then I saw this post viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1292 regarding a "sudden puffer death syndrome" and when they described the blanching of the skin, it sounded like my Olivia. So I did what the post said and added the correct dosage of Melafix to see how that may help. I read about it this "syndrome" more on the web and it sounds horrible... and no one knows the cause. The blanching on Olivia is much worse - almost completely white now with a little darkness on her underside... but she's still breathing. Were hanging in there.
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Re: OMG!!! Please HELP!!!!
I'm sorry she's doing so badly. It's sad that in the 7 years you've kept them, you never purchased a proper liquid test kit. Please do a 50% water change right now!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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thanks.
Olivia passed last night - to no surprise. She was a good fish.
Actually, I HAVE had liquid test kits in the past 7 years- many of them. I just don't have one right now and rely on test strips in a pinch. Please don't point fingers when you don't know much about my last 7 years. I've already completed the water change you mentioned since she had taken ill. The other puffer in the tank is still fine - no signs of stress or illness.Pufferpunk wrote: It's sad that in the 7 years you've kept them, you never purchased a proper liquid test kit. Please do a 50% water change right now!
Olivia passed last night - to no surprise. She was a good fish.
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Re: OMG!!! Please HELP!!!!
I'm so sorry. That is really sad.defool89 wrote:Poor puff is passing
You did what you could, and maybe others learned something from it. I've never seen or heard of the skin turning that color.Life is a sum of all your choices - Albert Camus
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Thank you, PufferMe.
I still think it might have been intestinal stoppage - she was such a sow. I'm going to do a necropsy tonight to see. I'll report my findings here. I miss her already.
I read about it in my frantic search for answers in a blog from WETWEB. They described exactly what I saw happen to Olivia. Here's the link http://www.wetwebmedia.com/brackishsubw ... uffaq3.htm The blog is lower towards the bottom of the page - or just search by ctl-F "Syndrome" and it'll take you to it.PufferMe! wrote: I've never seen or heard of the skin turning that color.
I still think it might have been intestinal stoppage - she was such a sow. I'm going to do a necropsy tonight to see. I'll report my findings here. I miss her already.
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Re: OMG!!! Please HELP!!!!
How large was the fish when you got it? If it was mature who knows the actual age and maybe it was just a full life. Either way sorry it didn't make it.
There are many knowledgeable fish keepers on this forum willing to help and give great advice...The advice is free; What you choose to do with it gives it value.
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Thanks for sharing, this was informative.
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Alright, sorry for jumping to that conclusion. Sorry for the loss of your friend.bigskies wrote: Actually, I HAVE had liquid test kits in the past 7 years- many of them. I just don't have one right now and rely on test strips in a pinch. Please don't point fingers when you don't know much about my last 7 years.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Thank you JRC3.JRC3 wrote:How large was the fish when you got it? If it was mature who knows the actual age and maybe it was just a full life. Either way sorry it didn't make it.
She was about 2 inches when I got her - she was a Wal Mart rescue. That was about 7 years ago. She was starving when I bought her but she's been in immaculate health ever since - and happy. She was definitely an adult - about 6 1/2 " long and her living conditions were supportive of an adult GSP... except for not finishing her larger tank fast enough to transfer her from her 40 gal to the 100 gal. I hope that wasn't the cause.
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They generally live to their upper teens.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"