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Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:25 am
by mkeaton
Guys, I am new to keeping GSP and am now setting up and cycling my brackish tank for about two weeks before I get my fish. I tested my water this morning, the salinity is spot on, the pH is right where it needs to be, BUT my water hardness is off the charts! it's way to high even though I have spring water from a backyard well. Will the puffers be ok in the hard water or should I be using softening pillows for it? I don't necessarily want to add a bunch of the chemicals to change anything, so I basically want to know if young GSP will be ok in this water.
Thanks a lot,
Mia

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:43 pm
by Pufferpunk
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Hard water is perfect for BW tanks!

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:10 pm
by JRC3
If you are testing brackish water with a GH (general hardness) kit it will be off the chart. You'll need to only test for KH (carbonate hardness) with a KH test kit.

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:12 pm
by mkeaton
JRC3, what KH am I going for, when I tested, that aspect wasn't as high as the hardness, but it was still up there. Where is the safest level for puffers? Thanks guys!

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:33 pm
by Pufferpunk
I never test for either.

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:46 pm
by mkeaton
Ok, I will just keep an eye on it then...seems like it would be alright. Also, do you know if live sand can survive in brackish water that's 1.008-1.01 SG?

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:17 pm
by Pufferpunk
Nope, 1.018 or higher.

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:49 pm
by mkeaton
and can GSP survive in that high salt content when they are small? I thought they had to be in 1.01 or lower.

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:31 pm
by PufferMe!
mkeaton wrote:JRC3, what KH am I going for, when I tested, that aspect wasn't as high as the hardness, but it was still up there. Where is the safest level for puffers? Thanks guys!

KH of 200-400ppm would be in the ideal range for brackish water puffers.

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:41 am
by Pufferpunk
mkeaton wrote:and can GSP survive in that high salt content when they are small? I thought they had to be in 1.01 or lower.
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Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:30 am
by mkeaton
Thanks so much, I appreciate it guys!

Re: Puffers in Hard Water

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:27 am
by RTR
I do check the KH of low to moderate BW systems. The marine mix dos not have sufficient KH to keep me happy below !.012 or a bit higher. Mid-level BW and above is likely to be okay on carbonate hardness. Low-end BW is at risk, especially at the levels used for F-8s.