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wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:11 am
by macca
hi guys i am sorry if this is a re-post? but i am kinda knew at this forum thing. i live in western Australia and am trying to find out as much info as i can on freshwater (brackish) puffer fish?
i am buying them from a pet store near were i live but i am unable to get a signification name so finding out info is proving to be hard? i was wondering if you guys could help me/correct me?
i was wondering from the study i have done so far. i found that the water temp likes to be around 24-26c (76-78f)?
i also found the ph for the tank should be 7.5-8.0?
i am looking at having two small puffers in a 160L tank (42 gallons) i think it will be ok for just them two fish seens as in the shop they are in a tank thats mybe 20L?
from my study/looking a pics online it looks like a torquigener glaber? are this australinan fish or am i way off base? if you guys could help it would be grate. i look forward to your help and i will post pics when i get the fish at the end of the week once my tank has cycled through?
oh one other thing i have a brother that has a full marine tank and he recons i should take the carbon filters out? thoughts?
thanks aging and really look forward to your help.
macca
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 11:40 am
by purplecandle
The puffer you mention is an Aussie, but we need a picture for ID, they are easily confused with other freshwater species.
Hard to give info without proper ID.
Welcome to the forum!
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 11:53 am
by eieio
the first two results of a "google" search of "torquigener glaber":
1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smooth_toadfish
2)
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12863
welcome to TPF

Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 2:07 am
by macca
thanks purplecandle yer i did think that last night when i was typing my post so i went and got one today.
thanks eieio for the links i will read them now but just on a quick scan it seem to mention that they are common around the East side of Australia and i am on the west so i wounder if it is different again?
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:12 am
by scpion
Good thing u posted picture. That is a SAP. South American Puffer. True FW. Look it up in the library. They have special requirements for dentistry.
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:25 am
by macca
thanks scpoion i glad i found this forum hay. cos the pet shop didn't know much about them,
how can you tell? what gives it away. but i am in west Australia do they come all the way down hear?
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:25 am
by bertie 83
It does look like a sap but the fully silver underside is making me question that. I am not too sure, this is one for Corvus
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:17 am
by purplecandle
scpion wrote:Good thing u posted picture. That is a SAP. South American Puffer. True FW. Look it up in the library. They have special requirements for dentistry.
It is NOT a SAP
It is a Marilyna darwinii, an Aussie.
Here is a corvus ID.
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=32666&p=342299&hil ... ia#p342299
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:59 am
by scpion
purplecandle wrote:scpion wrote:Good thing u posted picture. That is a SAP. South American Puffer. True FW. Look it up in the library. They have special requirements for dentistry.
It is NOT a SAP
It is a Marilyna darwinii, an Aussie.
Here is a corvus ID.
viewtopic.php?f=37&t=32666&p=342299&hil ... ia#p342299
Seems PC is right! Glad I found this forum too! The shape sure looks identical though..
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:15 pm
by bertie 83
Yea same shape as a sap, same markings on the back. It was the silver belly that gave me doubts,
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:50 pm
by purplecandle
I am always right...just kidding!
You ever notice...when people from Australia come here, they always have some sort of Australian puffer? They rarely come on with green spots or freshwater puffers. I wonder if shipping from places like Singapore or South America is too far away from Australia or something?
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:56 pm
by macca
Ok so its a marilyna darwinii. that sounds a bit closer to home. well if that's a aussie then it must be that.

thanks for the link i will have a read.
thanks again pc and bertie you guys are a grate source of info hay.
pc yer that might be true but i think that's because of how strict our quarantine laws are. i would love to get a green spotted puffer i think they look amazing.
for example i live in wa and i have a reptile license but that only lets me keep reptiles that are from west Australia. for some silly reason i cant own a green tree snake because they are not common over hear but they are in the east states like syd and qld. so i think that's why you find most aussies speaking about aussie fish hay.

its a shame cos there are some really cool ones out there hay.
i will post a pic of my tank with my puffers in it soon i am just waiting on the tank to finish cycling through. say can you point me in the way of info about over-filtration?
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:53 pm
by Master of Puffers
I wonder if shipping from places like Singapore or South America is too far away from Australia or something?
Given how much closer Singapore is to Oz than US...I'm doubting that statement...
However fiscally there maybe better reasons to transport to US/Canada due to the fact that US/Canada has a combined population of close to 350 mill..( approx 310 m US and 33 Canada) than to Oz pop approx 30 mill..
Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:57 am
by Corvus
Yes Marilyna.

Re: wanting a puffer fish? but wants more info first?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:05 am
by macca
ok cool so its a marilyna so what do you guys think the best tank set up is in regards to the ph and how much salt i put in the tank?
my tests so far are ph is around 7.4-7.6ph and 0 ammonia, 0 nitrate, 0 nitrite
as for the salinity of the water is still fresh atm but i am slowly introducing salt over the next few days to slowly increase the salinity.
and the temp is set around the 25-26c.
dose all that sound about right?