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Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:12 pm
by PapaPUFF
I've been treating my driftwood to be fully submersible but it's still giving out tannins. Would it be ok for my Fahaka if I put that into his tank?

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:33 pm
by Squaffy
The tannins themselves are not toxic, but they will drop the pH, so keep a very close watch on tank parameters

Activated carbon would help, but there's differing views on whether it should be used for anything but removing med treatments - it's personal choice

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:34 am
by Pufferpunk
I have 2 huge pieces of driftwood in 2 large tanks. I do 75% weekly WC, to bring the color back to normal. The older piece is finally not turning the water brown.

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:13 am
by PapaPUFF
Pufferpunk wrote:I have 2 huge pieces of driftwood in 2 large tanks. I do 75% weekly WC, to bring the color back to normal. The older piece is finally not turning the water brown.
Ok thanks. Wouldn't it stress him doing 75% WC?

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:29 am
by bertie 83
Absolutely not, you could probably break it down to around 2x 50% weekly and should get a similar clearing effect if you would prefer.

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:57 am
by RTR
There is nothing evil about GAC, but it generally cost more than water. Lots of breeders do 100% water changes or more daily. Do keep in mind that in the wild fish get a lot more changes than that much of the year...

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:55 am
by PapaPUFF
RTR wrote:There is nothing evil about GAC, but it generally cost more than water. Lots of breeders do 100% water changes or more daily. Do keep in mind that in the wild fish get a lot more changes than that much of the year...
Yea that is what I was informed by one of our LFS. He told me the direct importer is doing 100% WC in every batch of fishes that would arrive. But make sure the medias of the filter still got good beneficial bacterias, right?

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:18 pm
by Pufferpunk
You can never do WC too large or too often, as long as they are done regularly. My tank's water closely resembles that of my tap. ;)

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:27 am
by RTR
Huge +1 to PP's comment. That statement: "My tank's water closely resembles that of my tap." is exactly what we all should be trying to achieve!

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:49 am
by Pufferpunk
BTW, after ~6 months, the tannin of a piece large enough to fill 1/2 of my 90g has pretty much stopped leaching color. Also, even though the water was quite brown at the end of the week, the pH never changed.

Re: Driftwood tannin..

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:57 am
by RTR
But the tannins can eat light. If you use a lot of fresh wood, start w/artificial plants until the tannins clear.