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F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:53 pm
by GSPufferGSP
Can it be done?

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:58 pm
by Pufferpunk
No, they are best kept at low-end BW, SG 1.003-1.005.

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:17 pm
by GSPufferGSP
Does that apply when they're fully grown?

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:41 pm
by defool89
Yep

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:44 pm
by GSPufferGSP
Ok, is it 15 gal. minimum? Because I hear many different things... :lol:

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:47 pm
by Pufferpunk

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:59 pm
by Terrance
Trust the stuff on this forum more than everywhere else. We won't steer you wrong ;)

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:00 am
by Pufferpunk
Our Mentor, RTR, did a decade-long study on F8s.

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:05 am
by GSPufferGSP
DANG!!! I could imagine though, brackish fish being one of the most misunderstood fish there are, AHA!

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:10 am
by JRC3
JRC3 wrote:
GSPufferGSP wrote:Ok, is it 15 gal. minimum?
In the US a 6'x8' jail cell is the average for a human...But I wouldn't want to live in one. Minimum is exactly what it is...Minimum. :wink:

I know they don't quite equally compare, but a bigger water column isn't only good for swimming and entertainment, but also better to keep water params in check. :thumb:

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:14 am
by GSPufferGSP
Alright, I got you. :P

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:26 am
by Tim
GSPufferGSP wrote:Can it be done?
Ofcourse it can be done, whether or not this is animal cruelty however, that I cannot answer :?. I have seen F8s in reef aquaria, and they show no visual signs of discomfort that I can see. It is near impossible to find accounts of people that keep them long term though. I have only found one account that said he kept one for 12 year.

I am wondering if RTR has some more insight into what would happen to F8s in marine water given his research, for the benefit of this thread and out of personal curiosity. As a simple No and it's not optimal are personally not good enough answers :) as this is something that is an often returning question especially on reef fora.

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:40 am
by Terrance
Tim wrote:
GSPufferGSP wrote:Can it be done?
Ofcourse it can be done, whether or not this is animal cruelty however, that I cannot answer :?. I have seen F8s in reef aquaria, and they show no visual signs of discomfort that I can see. It is near impossible to find accounts of people that keep them long term though. I have only found one account that said he kept one for 12 year.

I am wondering if RTR has some more insight into what would happen to F8s in marine water given his research, for the benefit of this thread and out of personal curiosity. As a simple No and it's not optimal are personally not good enough answers :) as this is something that is an often returning question especially on reef fora.
Could you provide a link about this particular figure 8? I want to see. I've seen 1-2 of them in a reef in youtube videos, but never thought they wouldn't live any close to 10 years in marine water.

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:02 am
by Tim
Terrance wrote:
Tim wrote:
GSPufferGSP wrote:Can it be done?
Ofcourse it can be done, whether or not this is animal cruelty however, that I cannot answer :?. I have seen F8s in reef aquaria, and they show no visual signs of discomfort that I can see. It is near impossible to find accounts of people that keep them long term though. I have only found one account that said he kept one for 12 year.

I am wondering if RTR has some more insight into what would happen to F8s in marine water given his research, for the benefit of this thread and out of personal curiosity. As a simple No and it's not optimal are personally not good enough answers :) as this is something that is an often returning question especially on reef fora.
Could you provide a link about this particular figure 8? I want to see. I've seen 1-2 of them in a reef in youtube videos, but never thought they wouldn't live any close to 10 years in marine water.
It was quite a while ago, but I'll try to find it again. It's still the internet though, so no idea how much truth is in it. :lol:

Re: F8 In Full Marine?

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:38 am
by sgtmyers88
It's almost the same as asking if you can survive in the atmosphere of Mars. You may be able to breathe in it somewhat, but one cannot say how long you can survive doing so.