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Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:49 pm
by *GSP*Fan*
I will get getting a GSP in the next couple weeks but what to have a breeder tank set up to breed my own supply of food. I intended on doing snails, pond or ramshorn, but was wondering what I could possibly keep/breed in the tank with them as food. I wasn't sure what snails, shrimp, crab, etc would be compatible for that situation and also wouldn't eat the eggs of one another.

I have tank setup and ready to go I just want to get started as soon as I can and breed/keep as much of a variety as I can.

Any ideas??

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:18 pm
by bertie 83
Mixed breeders are a no go, it doesn't work. If you wish to breed shrimp or crabs or crays etc they will need their own setup to suit their needs. Welcome to the forum

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:07 pm
by *GSP*Fan*
bertie 83 wrote:Mixed breeders are a no go, it doesn't work. If you wish to breed shrimp or crabs or crays etc they will need their own setup to suit their needs. Welcome to the forum
Thanks!

I had been lurking for a bit and finally decided it would be best to join and help with any questions I may have.

I could have sworn when reading through some topics that someone had mentioned having a breeder tank with snails and something else, crayfish/etc., but it was an older topic and wasn't a whole lot of explanation on how the tank was set up, etc.

Would I be able to raise/breed different species of snails together? Like pond and ramshorn?

What else can be easily bred (beside snails), are healthy/nutritious, and could be a larger part of a GSP's diet? If there is anything.

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:13 pm
by bertie 83
If you mix snails, one type will dominate its just pointless tbh. In mixed breeders snail eggs get eaten. Crayfish are generally easy to breed.

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:17 pm
by *GSP*Fan*
bertie 83 wrote:If you mix snails, one type will dominate its just pointless tbh. In mixed breeders snail eggs get eaten. Crayfish are generally easy to breed.

Okay. Thanks. Would I be better off doing pond or ramshorn?

I am not too familiar either but thought maybe pond would be just fine at first as far as size and such and maybe do ramshorn later with breeding?

Is there a particular kind of crayfish that is easy to keep/breed and great for GSPS to eat? And any info on the setup?

I have a 5 gallon setup now that I intended on using for the snails but would obtain a larger aquarium if needed for crayfish/etc.

Sorry, I've got so many questions!

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:33 pm
by bertie 83
Either snail is fine, I think pond snails reproduce faster. Google self replicating crays and have a read, you will likely find it useful.

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:34 pm
by *GSP*Fan*
bertie 83 wrote:Either snail is fine, I think pond snails reproduce faster. Google self replicating crays and have a read, you will likely find it useful.

Will do, thanks!

That actually sounds familiar, from reading through topics on this forum I'm sure.

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:08 am
by cal_mul
hi while you guys are on this topic, i was also curious about shelled foods you can breed; Is there any i could breed in my marine tank sump? like snails etc as i am unsure about the breeding of any species in captivity (if no1 has an answer before i find out i'll let you all know) other than snails is there anything really? thanks for any replies :)

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:27 am
by cal_mul
cal_mul wrote:hi while you guys are on this topic, i was also curious about shelled foods you can breed; Is there any i could breed in my marine tank sump? like snails etc as i am unsure about the breeding of any species in captivity (if no1 has an answer before i find out i'll let you all know) other than snails is there anything really? thanks for any replies :)
found mini turbo's (collonista spp.) max size 0.25" (6mm) of which they can reproduce well in some systems. hope this is of use to some people i am going to try and add to the main tank and see what the outcome is. still looking for other things that could reproduce in marine though. :D

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 8:31 am
by bertie 83
I personally would not breed stuff in a sump, it all adds to the bio-load of the tank. Snails poop lots lol

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:09 pm
by *GSP*Fan*
I just ordered some ramshorn snails and red cherry shrimp to have on hand, and hopefully breeding, for food for my soon to be GSP.

I'm actually pretty excited, can't believe I am for what it is though haha. :D

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:00 pm
by JRC3
Snail breeding for me has been a pain. I've tried dedicated 10 and 15g tanks and once snails get established they produce no more. I've started to use 5g buckets starting with a handful of mature snails and after a week or so of egg laying, I remove the adults and let the eggs hatch and grow...Rotating between two 5g buckets.

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:35 pm
by Pufferpunk
That pic is a bit too large.

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:49 pm
by JRC3
I set it t0 800x600 in my Photobucket...It even says that in the properties. IDK, I reset and saved it again to see what happens.

Re: Help with breeding a variety of puffer food

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:12 pm
by cal_mul
bertie 83 wrote:I personally would not breed stuff in a sump, it all adds to the bio-load of the tank. Snails poop lots lol
hmmmmm, i didn't consider that and i am currently wanting my No3 as near to 0 as possible so i might not bother.
found a lifesaver though, after plenty of hunting around in shops i found Sainsburys sell shelled king prawns :o
so that should tidy him over till i find a better shelled food for him. in your experience would the shells of these prawns be enough to grind the teeth down if feed 3 times a week and obviously vary with other foods?