The Puffer Forum

I can find a lot of Turbo snails in the city and most of them in Marine tank. I am wondering will it survive in Brackish tank like Nerite Snails which able to adapt FW to SW

Nope.

thank you

I just got some Ramshorn and Malaysia Trumpet snail from a Hobbyish Fish store and they love licking the rock in Brackish Tank... The owner told me those Ramshorn and Malaysia Trumpet Snail will survive FW to SW

don't feed MTS to puffers they are to hard and could chip their teeth!

The owner is misinformed.

Well my puffer don't eat Snails at all ...only interested on Frozen BloodWorm... he just swim with the Mollies around..

Is there something wrong with my Puffer..
Well as for the MTS and Ramshorn, the owner catch some from the Marine Tank and also from the FW tank.

Then he is misinformed or just has no clue as to what MTS and ramshorns are.

..or his "Marine" tank has the same amount of salt as the average LFS "brackish water" tank--almost none! MTS and ramshorn snails will quickly die and disintegrate in saltwater. Absolute fact. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

I will just let stay in my tank right now ..when it's dead.. I just take it out..so far all of them running around the stone..

i bought a turbo snail under misinformation.. everyone told me it would be fine... and it is.. but from what i read there saltwater.. i have one in my tank for a long time now.. im not saying its a good idea or anything but i do have a living one in a SG of 1.014 it started at 1.010 when it was introduced but i was slowly bring it up at the time, and the damn thing lived and is still puttsing around right now.. cleans the glass pretty good too... have 12 nerites as well on the way from aag.com.......

Malayan livebearing snails do very well in brackish water, and are very common in such habitats. See here, for example, a report about populations along the coastline of Florida, where they live fresh and brackish water. Maximum salinity is quoted at being above 30 ppt (where 35 ppt is full marine). I've certainly kept them in 50% seawater in aquaria without any problems at all.

http://nis.gsmfc.org/nis_factsheet.php?toc_id=144

Most of the Neritidae are marine, and the "freshwater nerites" include numerous brackish water species. The olive nerite is a classic example. It will only breed in brackish and probably wants high-end brackish to do well. The fact we don't keep them thus probably explains why these snails have a very high mortality in aquaria.

http://www.uwf.edu/rsnyder/ffnwf/salmars/sltmars.html
http://www.usm.edu/gcrl/summer_field/Su ... f1301c437a

Regular ramshorn snails won't tolerate brackish, but Colombian ramshorns (actually a kind of apple snail) will. Estimates of its salt tolerance vary, but it is something around 30% seawater.

http://www.applesnail.net/content/speci ... rietis.htm

Apple snails do not like salt at all, and nor do the generic pond snails like Lymnaea and Physa. They will probably tolerate trivial amounts of salt (<10% seawater) just as freshwater fish and plants will, but for all practical purposes, they are best left out of brackish water aquaria.

Having said all this, snails and puffers probably don't mix, except as food. I'd imagine nerites would be the most puffer-proof, but even then, it's chancey.

Cheers,

Neale

PS. The problem with turbo snails is the same as with blue-leg hermit crabs, which _can_ do well in brackish. These inverts aren't traded by Latin name, and so it's easy for one person to get a brackish-tolerant species, while another gets a true reef species with zero tolerance of brackish. So you have to be careful. Mind you, spend any time in a tropical brackish water lagoon, and you'll see gillions of hermit crabs and snails, so there must be a fair number of suitable species. We just don't see them deliberately traded.