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GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:54 pm
by RVS
Hi there! im doing a favor to a friend ho has some puffers, hes does not has an account here (probably he´ll create one) but one of his puffers has developed a very very strange stuff (disease), here are the Q:

1.- water parameters: ph: 7.7, NO2< 0.3 mg/l, NH3/NH40 mg/l, and 1.002.

2.- Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants: 204 lt, 4 puffer (2 nigroviridis & 2 fluviatilis at 2.5") and 1 Scatophagus argus.

3.- water change schedule: he changes 15-20% every week and does a 30-40% once per month, he does nor use chemicals at all (his tap water does not contain chlorine or chloramines); He feeds them with zophoba Morio(live), snails (live), prawns(frozen), Tenebrio Molitor (live), mussel (frozen) every day uses a difrent food.

4.-What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so: he add the Scatophagus argus a month ago, and he said that the puffer ate the mussel and after 2 days the protuberance appears.

5.-How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? Yes it was properly cicled, has 2 years working and the sick puffer has 1 year in the tank.

Pictures:

Here is how it started:
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The became like this:
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Now, the poor guy is like this:
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¿what could it be? i suspect about a degenerative melanoma, like in angle fish, but dont know why it happens or how tu cure it.
Please Help!

¿rise salinity? ¿do 30% wc every week?

Re: GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:18 pm
by bertie 83
He has a 50g with 4 puffers. The salinity is off for both species and does enough waterchanges for a massively understocked tank which his isn't. My guess is an infected bite. Rant over. This tank is a recipe for disaster. Rant definately over.

Re: GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:21 pm
by Pufferpunk
My 1st thought was a tumor gone very, very wrong... :( Poor fella.

Re: GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:03 pm
by RVS
Yep.... poor, i dont know if i must feel angry or sorrow, or both.

What i told his is:
1.- Separate the puffer to a 30gl.
2.-adquire a 120g for the puffers only, he accepted this.
3.-Then rise salinity to 1.018.
4.- adquire an appropriate skimmer and a sump filter for the 120gl in order to get more water and start a high BW end wc schedule.

It is not an infected bite at all, it was a protuberance as you can see on the second pic, then i guess the puff scrape it on a stone or something, and effectively gets infected, he is now in a 30gl alone ready for treatment ¿which procedure should he follow now?

Re: GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:51 pm
by Pufferpunk
Does it look infected or just an open wound? At the very least, Melafix.

Re: GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:57 pm
by RVS
It looks more like an open wound... i´ve heard about melafix ¿do you know the active ingredients? just in case he does not find it.

Re: GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:22 am
by Pufferpunk
Should be able to find it anywhere in the world. Certainly, on Ebay or Amazon.

Re: GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:58 am
by J-P
RVS wrote:i´ve heard about melafix ¿do you know the active ingredients?
Tea tree oil made by the company API now.

If your friend is on well water, I'd go QT, a hose in, and a hose out and continuously change the water. Treat with anti-fungal and anti-bacterial meds.

Although some would be of the mindset that it is too far gone to treat and put it down.

Re: GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:15 pm
by RVS
Thanks for the advise, he start to follow everything you told me, and of course, we are ready for the worst but waiting the best, i´ll keep you informed about this little folk.

it would be good to use sera mycopur & sera baktopur in the water, and baths with melafix, ¿ok?

Tea tree oil, really? sound simple lol.

Re: GSP with skin problems!

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:18 pm
by Pufferpunk
It is more than tea tree oil. Please do your best to find the real product, do not substitute.