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changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:43 am
by kpjenk21
I'm thinking about changing from gravel to a sand bottom in my 30 gal. tank that has my GSP. What's the best way to go about doing that? also, what's the best way to do cleanings with sand? right now i just use a gravel vac. thanks :)

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:33 am
by bertie 83
I did a substrate change not that long ago, I did it section at a time

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:27 pm
by suvattii2012
Did You leave the fish in while you did it bertie? When my puffer is better i wanted to take the sand and the bits of gravel out and just use some fresh sand.

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:50 pm
by Pufferpunk
Are you using aragonite sand?

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:17 pm
by bertie 83
Yes did it with the fish in, changed about 1/4 at a time with a weeks gap between. I scooped the gravel and my wife vacuumed any waterborne detritus. Was easy till we got to his fav corner, that was not quite as thorough, we were getting chomped at splashed and spat at. Not fun

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:14 pm
by Pufferpunk
I just scoop the gravel up with a net & put the new substrate in.

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:17 pm
by FADE2BLACK_1973
+1 But left alittle bit of gravel mixed in the sand.

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:56 am
by kcartwright856
When I did the switch, I removed my fish and took the gravel out with a net, as PP did. I vacuumed the gravel pretty well as I drained the tank before scooping.

For the first scoop of gravel out of the tank, I skimmed across the top to get the most beneficial bacteria to place into a nylon stocking so that I could put some back into the tank temporarily.

Then I placed rinsed sand where I needed it, placed a bowl in the sand and poured water into the bowl so that it wouldn't disturb and kick up the sand.

Everything worked out great!

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:46 am
by suvattii2012
would you leave the filter on while your putting more sand in?

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:31 pm
by kcartwright856
suvattii2012 wrote:would you leave the filter on while your putting more sand in?
Not unless you hate your impeller.

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:07 pm
by bertie 83
Raise the inlet and put sand in carefully you don't want your filter off for long.

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:15 am
by kcartwright856
This may not work with all sands, but I use a method that has zero "kick-up" when placing pool filter sand into a tank already filled with water.

Basically, you get a soda bottle (I used a 2 liter, but I think something smaller would work just as well.) and fill it with your sand. Slowly lower it into the tank vertically and allow the bottle to fill with water. Once filled, flip it over. The sand will pour out of the bottle, and any debris/cloudiness left over from rinsing is completely contained inside of the bottle.

Let all or most of the sand drop out and quickly turn the bottle back upright and take it out. Dump the cloudy water, rinse and repeat.

Works every time.

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 8:20 am
by suvattii2012
thanks

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 10:00 am
by kpjenk21
so today i started changing from gravel to Aragonite sand bottom, and this is what i have changed so far. how long should i wait until i change the next section, and how how much more can change at that time? 30 gal. tank BTW

Re: changing from gravel to sand

Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:06 pm
by bertie 83
It really depends on how established the tank is. Some change all at once, I prefer to do it 1/4 at a time with a weeks gap, there may be lots of good bacteria in the gravel and I did not wish to remove it all at once, I was basically paranoid