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For the scientists: A question.

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:55 pm
by J-P
I have been approached by a company that offers an "all natural" anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, anti-parasite, and that is invert safe medication.

I have asked for the test results and "white papers" for the product and am waiting a reply.

Further than that, I would like to know what pertinent questions to ask. Most anti-bacterial meds are not filter safe. These claim they are. Most anti parasire meds are not invert safe. These claim they are. Thus I really have my doubts.

Here is the ingredient list and dosages (don't be shocked... it is in powder form and highly concentrated):
Composition
Potassium Monopersulphate Triple Salt ……………………………52%
Sodium Chloride……………………..2.0%
Excipients……………………………q.s. to 100%

Applications
Treatment Periods
Disinfection before stocking 1-2 days prior to stocking 1.2 g/m3
Disease prevention in stocked ponds 1 time per 10 days 0.8-1.0 g/m3
Disease outbreaks 1 time per 3 days repeated for 3 times 0.8-1.2 g/m3
Treatment of fungi buildup 1 time per day repeated for 3 days 1.5 g/m3
Water purification 1 time every 3 days 0.2-0.3 g/m3

1 meter cubed = 300+ gallons. / 1000l

So we are talking VERY low quantities here to treat an average aquarium.

So... the main questions is.... How can we find out if this stuff is for real?

Re: For the scientists: A question.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:10 am
by Corvus
I remain sceptical so far. Not much to assess anyway. I think the manufacturer has to proove his product works. As hobbyists we can hardly do the necessary, expensive studies. "anti-bacterial" alone is a little unprecise... which are killed, which are not, the same - as you note - can be said about "anti-parasite".

Re: For the scientists: A question.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:47 am
by RTR
Corvus is a gentleman. I used to be, but I recovered.

Those "claims" are, in their current form, meaningless. Darn near everything is in some manner or under certain conditions "antibacterial". Specificity counts, big time. "Disease prevention" requires even more specificity. Disease prevention will not stand up in court - as a simple label it carries about the valuse of the old cigarette ads saying "not a cough in a carload" - i.e., totally meaningless.

If the brush is too broad and the claims too wide and totally unspecific, bet that it is garbage. Ask the trial data, but do not hold your breath or send money.

Re: For the scientists: A question.

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:01 am
by J-P
Thank you for the replies :) My gut tells me this is BS... but given the chemical compounds and dosages.. made me ask the question.

I have never seen before "triple salt" ... If I get any more info I'll let you know.