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Borneensis or Salivator male? *Pictures added*

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:59 pm
by brochi.rr
I bought a pair of Borneensis. They were overnighted and I received them today. The female looks like a borneo... The male looks like a Salivator. He has the stripes on the back and bars on his face... There isn't much info on the two and pictures are often miss named.
So the question is, before I call the company, what is a correct picture or description of a Borneensis
Thank you

Re: Borneoeisis or Salivator male?

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:02 pm
by Pufferpunk
[welcome]
Post them here. We have a Mentor here who is excellent on ID.

Re: Borneoeisis or Salivator male?

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:49 pm
by brochi.rr
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This is as good as I could get with my phone.
Edited to add that the guppy would not let me catch her.

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male?

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:01 am
by Pufferpunk
I only see 1 puffer.

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male?

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:13 am
by Corvus
Can't see stripes on the back of the male in the picture, but I see the bar on the lower jaw
A male C. salivator looks like this:
http://www.aquanet.de/Handler/FileHandl ... 1e9fb6263d
http://www.aquariumphoto.dk/carinotetra ... tor_2x.jpg
An adult, male C. borneensis looks like this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YvEHTl2dZPY/S ... eensis.JPG
http://www.aquaware.info/foto/pesci/Car ... haelLo.jpg
http://www.fishbase.se/images/thumbnail ... bor_u0.jpg

The females are told apart e.g. by continuous stripes on the belly: C. salivator has them. C. borneensis don't (and look like this: http://www.aquariumglaser.de/backend/FC ... ensis2.jpg).

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male?

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:14 am
by Corvus
Pufferpunk wrote:I only see 1 puffer.
Is in the lower left corner of the picture. Impossible to see anything relevant, though.

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male?

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:14 am
by brochi.rr
Sorry the female is much too quick to get anything. She looks correct the male does not. He has the yellowish stripes or bands down the back. Ill try to get a better pic today. The tank lights were off for stress reasons. Looking at the pictures im pretty sure he is not what I ordered and paved to next day!

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male?

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:28 pm
by brochi.rr
I would post more pictures but the images are to large and I debt have patients enough to fight with photo bucket on my phone. (my source of internet)
The male is definitely a salivator. I called the company today and they are sending the right male out tomorrow to get here Friday. No charge to me.
So anyone want a Salivator male. Healthy, Vibrant, eating great ? I can't set up another tank.
I bought the fish from The Wet Spot in Oregon in Case anyone is wondering. They were shipped very well, Very healthy and eating great. Besides the mix up, which I think he jumped into the wrong tank (he just jumped out of my guppy breeder box into the main tank >:/) they handled the mistake superbly. I would definitely use them again.

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male?

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:28 pm
by Terrance
Post in classified section.
Wet Spot is a great fish store.

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male?

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:33 pm
by brochi.rr
So I went to town today and uploaded pictures to photobucket. I need your ID from the pictures though im pretty sure he's a Salivator. The sales manager says the other male there is showing the same mottled color and that this boy is just stressed. To me he's not stressed and is very happy and healthy And a beasty brute! What an attitude he has! lol
I am not an expert and Im just going off what I've looked up. I don't want to be wrong!
Wet spot has only seen the picture of his back and not the bars on his face/jaw.
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Re: Borneensis or Salivator male?

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:39 pm
by brochi.rr
This is the very stressed female Borneensis. I have since switched the two. The female stresses very easily.
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Re: Borneensis or Salivator male? *Pictures added*

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:40 am
by Corvus
Yes, C. salivator male. The second puffer I'm not surem it's quite dark, is the caudal fin striped and the belly stripeless?

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male? *Pictures added*

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:20 pm
by Pufferpunk
Can't you just keep them together? He's so pretty!

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male? *Pictures added*

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:24 pm
by brochi.rr
Pufferpunk wrote:Can't you just keep them together? He's so pretty!
I wish I could, but from what I read they don't mix well. Its a gamble just having a pair of the same kind. As it is this little brute stalks the female as a past time. He got her tail good when she wasn't being aware. He is as aggressive as he is pretty!

Re: Borneensis or Salivator male? *Pictures added*

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:29 am
by hadla
id love to take him once i move, switch my fish around, and if he could go into a 10g all by himself. but youd have to ship him and i dont have money for overnight shipping. :(

damn i gotta stop looking at his pics, im wanting him as much as i had wanted the irrubesco last month.