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Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:51 pm
by DAgua
Good Morning

1) Water: PH-7.6, High PH- 7.4, Ammonia- 0 ppm, Nitrite- 0 ppm, Nitrate 0 ppm (tested with AIP Master kit liquid)
PH- 7.2, Ammonia-0, Nitrite - 0, Nitrate 0, (tested with Ocean powder ) did not do Copper or Phosphate

2) 110 gallon- 1 danio, 2 Bala sharks 3.5", Fahaka6" , Chinise Alg2.5", Cat fish 4-5"

3) Not eating (when she does eat clams, prawns, oysters, crayfish, worms, tuna), Weekly water changes, nothing added to tank until 3 days ago added Salt 1 TBS per 5 Gal. first day and then Ich treatment 1 drop per 2 gal.

4) no changes have been made up until 3 days ago when I did a 50% water change, vacuumed the sand, and added salt, next day ich treatment (blue one)

5) tank set up for 2 maybe 3 years....... cycled with Convics (?? I think, that was a while ago and a few tanks ago??) This is a planted tank

I did a 50% water change that included vacuum the sand, added salt (aquarium salt) 24 hrs later first dose of Ich treatment 1 drop per 2 gal.
24 hrs later (to the min.) Ich treatment again.

she is getting up 3 maybe 5 times a day swimming around and then going back under the sand.... the sharks and Cat clearly have ich, so it only stands to reason that she does too. This morning the Sharks have pink in the tail (bad) and she looks like she may have a little pinkish to her fins (??? maybe) so my question:

1) what antibiotics do you guys use? and Doesage?
2) do you do another water change and loose the meds that are already in the tank?

I am not sure if ich or velvet, Pheona's skin is not looking so good, she is looking color and gaining dark spots (normal for her when she is hunting or mad at another fish for taking some of her food)????

The 1/2 dose of Ich treatment does not seem to be working on the sharks.... but they are only in there because you cannot catch them... ok maybe you guys can but I have not had any luck..... do I need to try to remove them and put them in a full strength med tank?

lets not start out with the fact that this tank is over stocked, or that I should not have this with that... Pheona and Shrek are both Fahaka's that are in grow tanks 100 gal. and their real home is waiting for them 240 gal divided.

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:24 pm
by bertie 83
If you are treating for ich add heat and salt nothing else. This treatment is prob stressing her a bit. Give it time she will come round.

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:25 pm
by bertie 83
I don't think the catfish will like this though so I would remove and treat separately

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:40 pm
by sevenyearnight
Please follow this heat and salt treatment, it's the safest treatment, it's slightly different and much safer than what is posted online:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28113&p=305482&hili ... lt#p305482

Good luck, keep us posted.

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:43 pm
by sevenyearnight
That blue medication can kill your puffer, please do a masssive water change and add carbon to remove totally.
Puffers cannot be medicated with harsh chemicals, it can kill them.

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:18 pm
by bertie 83
is it malachite?

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:36 pm
by DAgua
it is Maracide as recommend by this forum???

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:41 pm
by DAgua
Thank you for the link, I did read that already..... and just re-read it again

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:42 pm
by DAgua
I am getting mixed idea's on how to treat this issue with Pheona,

should I do a water change or leave it for now?

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:49 pm
by bertie 83
Yes many water changes with gravel vac and heat/salt. It worked perfect with my fahaka. There is a thread on rtr's heat salt method which is an awesome read. Can anyone add a link to this pleease i dont know how thanks

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:52 pm
by bertie 83
You should be able to see it in view new posts i summoned it back lol

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:57 pm
by sevenyearnight
bertie I already posted the link. If you leave that blue medication in the tank, it could kill your puffer, so definitely do a water change, and add carbon to remove the remaining.

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:00 pm
by sevenyearnight
MaraCYN is safe, it is not blue. Maracide, the blue stuff, can be lethal

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:03 pm
by bertie 83
Sorry i missed that bit lol. A big waterchange and carbon will rid the medication as stated by seven. Then using the said method you will soon have a well puffer again

Re: Sick Fahaka (Pheona)

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:00 pm
by DAgua
OK the water change is done..... 50% change, carbon going back in next......

raising the heat again......

1 of the sharks died the cat is back swimming again and he ate a slice of shrimp that I was giving to pheona.....

she is still laying down