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ID on a clownfish

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:20 pm
by Troender
Can someone ID this clownfish this is?

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Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:28 pm
by geronimo69
I think it's a tomato clown (I can't remember the scientific name)... I'll google it.

If that's what it is, they are pretty cool, but can get a decent size bigger than you're average ocellaris.

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:30 pm
by geronimo69
The tomato clownfish, Amphiprion frenatus - is what I think it is. Final Answer.

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:45 pm
by jus85411
i would go with tomato as well. they are cool little fish! i saw a bunch at petco in a tank, and like 5 of them were trying to get in the same anenome, it was hilarious!

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:51 pm
by Troender
Yes, I love the personality of clownfish! Frenatus is a good guess. But I've also got a suggestion on A. barberi from someone else. They both look very alike. Does anyone know how to see the difference?

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:53 am
by RTR
Just do remember that clownfish are not really nice little fish. They commonly are cute to beautiful, and have teeth like scalpels. My stainless steel chainmail gloves were purchased for working in clown tanks. IME, Tomatoes are among the top three finger shredders.

Unfortunately they are great fish and quite hardy. If you have two and an anemone, prepare for attack.

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:20 pm
by geronimo69
RTR wrote:Just do remember that clownfish are not really nice little fish. They commonly are cute to beautiful, and have teeth like scalpels. My stainless steel chainmail gloves were purchased for working in clown tanks. IME, Tomatoes are among the top three finger shredders.

Unfortunately they are great fish and quite hardy. If you have two and an anemone, prepare for attack.
I agree 100%! I had one for a while, but traded him/her in for a pair of true perculas. As RTR stated, they have very sharp little teeth.

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:46 pm
by Corvus
True A. barberi have a very thin black margin around the white bar. This species was described in 2008 and is still often mixed up with A. frenatus. A. frenatus is probably what is shown above. Also see http://www.halichoeres.org/halichoeres/ ... 08a%29.pdf page 113.

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:51 pm
by Troender
It looks like it has a very thin black stripe around the white. Do you have a pic of a true frenatus to compare (I don't trust the pics at Google image)?

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:20 am
by Corvus
No prob: http://www.fishbase.de/Photos/PicturesS ... &TotRec=10

This looks like a A. barberi: http://www.aquariumdomain.com/images/fi ... rberi1.jpg

I can clearly see the black line on your pictures. I would not decribe it as very thin and don't think this is A. barberi.

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:54 am
by Troender
Thanks! :D Then it's a frenatus.

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:36 am
by geronimo69
Corvus wrote:No prob: http://www.fishbase.de/Photos/PicturesS ... &TotRec=10

This looks like a A. barberi: http://www.aquariumdomain.com/images/fi ... rberi1.jpg

I can clearly see the black line on your pictures. I would not decribe it as very thin and don't think this is A. barberi.

This is a great observation! So is the only differenc the little black band? How about size, habitat (host anemones?) etc. I am curious...

Re: ID on a clownfish

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:47 am
by Corvus
There are more differences, but this I think is the most easy one for us hobbyists when IDing a living specimen. See the linked paper by Allen et al. above for more detail on A. barberi (esp. geographic distribution on p. 111...), very interesting!