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ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:49 am
by J-P
As I am setting up my new tanks, I still have the puffer bug....
Situation A) shrimp + goby combo. Will one of the sharp nosed species be compatible?
Situation B) Peacock Mantis shrimp + one of the sharp nosed species ??
For some reason, I keep thinking no, but at the same time the pistol shrimp has a companion, and the Mantis shrimp... well I am worried that it would pound the puffer...
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:17 pm
by xvCODY
Id probably not put it in with the Mantis shrimp. Ive seen them snatch fish right out of the air (water) for food. lol. Also, super jealous you have a Peacock Mantis
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:28 pm
by J-P
ahhh but there in lies the pith... Peacock Mantis shrimp have "clubs" for claws. They will compete for the same shell food as the puffer. Other other type of Mantis shrimp are called "spearers" which are piscavores and eat live fish.
The problem is the fact that the Peacock Mantis is an Invertebrate and would potentially be a target for the puffer, BUT it is 3x the size of the puffer and over 20x as strong. :/
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:57 pm
by Pufferpunk
IMO, no on both.
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:32 pm
by J-P
Yea... that's what I thought

Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:36 pm
by jus85411
or go with c) another tank for a puff

Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:05 pm
by xrayjeeper83
Jus has the right idea LOL
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:18 pm
by J-P
The only way that would work is if there is a divider in there. No room for another tank at the moment.
The divider won't be feasible as the pistol shrimp would move it and the mantis would break it :/
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:02 am
by RTR
Ah the woes of too few tanks, regardless of how many you have. Trips to the invert house at the Zoo are depressing. . . There are so many wonderful things I have never kept.
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:49 pm
by geronimo69
J-P wrote:ahhh but there in lies the pith... Peacock Mantis shrimp have "clubs" for claws. They will compete for the same shell food as the puffer. Other other type of Mantis shrimp are called "spearers" which are piscavores and eat live fish.
The problem is the fact that the Peacock Mantis is an Invertebrate and would potentially be a target for the puffer, BUT it is 3x the size of the puffer and over 20x as strong. :/
I will not pretend to know anything about any of these inverts, but why wouldn't this work? I mean, the Peacock being 3x bigger and 20 times stronger... The puffer will leave it alone IMO. I know my puffers don't like anything larger than them entering their tank... send them straight to a corner to hide (ie my hand, srubbing aparatuses, etc.)
Just curious to hear why you guys don't think it will work, not arguing at all...
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:53 pm
by bertie 83
geronime has obviously never seen dps attacking a large shrimp lmao
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:54 pm
by bertie 83
Or met my fahaka which will happily attack my hand lol. Would you like a go? ha ha
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:24 pm
by xrayjeeper83
Geronime it would be a toss up. Each puffer is so different you wouldnt know if he/she would mess with the mantis till it was to late.
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:13 pm
by J-P
geronimo69 wrote:J-P wrote:ahhh but there in lies the pith... Peacock Mantis shrimp have "clubs" for claws. They will compete for the same shell food as the puffer. Other other type of Mantis shrimp are called "spearers" which are piscavores and eat live fish.
The problem is the fact that the Peacock Mantis is an Invertebrate and would potentially be a target for the puffer, BUT it is 3x the size of the puffer and over 20x as strong. :/
I will not pretend to know anything about any of these inverts, but why wouldn't this work? I mean, the Peacock being 3x bigger and 20 times stronger... The puffer will leave it alone IMO. I know my puffers don't like anything larger than them entering their tank... send them straight to a corner to hide (ie my hand, srubbing aparatuses, etc.)
Just curious to hear why you guys don't think it will work, not arguing at all...
With both of them competing for the same food source, I have a feeling I would loose a puffer. If it were one of the larger species, then yes the puffer would take out the mantis.
With the shrimp goby combo, the goby would protect the shrimp. That may be the best route to take, unless the puffer got really aggressive. Again that is kind of a big risk to take. The only other option would be a Fugu... (can you say PTOM), but they are brackish colder water fish :/
As x-reay put it I am kind of S.O.L. without another tank.... (or until my mother moves out next month =)
Re: ok... this will sound stupid...
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:35 pm
by xrayjeeper83
will the goby fight that hard for the shrimp? Seems such a small fish wouldnt be able to keep a puffer away from a shrimp if that puffer wanted it