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Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:49 pm
by jjj5311
Just wondering what type of filter/skimmer I should get for when i get to full marine. I can not do a sump/overflow system so i think i will need a hob skimmer.
Is there a system that is better/cheaper than doing a hob skimmer/filter. I found a cheap surface skimmer here.
http://www.fosterandsmithaquatics.com/p ... atid=16729
Does anyone have any experience with these?
The tank i am going to go full marine with is a 29 gallon high tank and I will eventually be putting in live rock. For the Live rock what is the lowest salinity i can start to introduce LR into the tank?
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:02 pm
by sevenyearnight
Hey, you're going to want to get some live rock first, you will need to introduce the sw bacteria and beneficial critters.
That's not the right kind of skimmer. Focus on getting some liverock first, honestly you don't *need* a skimmer, most skimmers will be overkill for 29 gallons.
You can add liverock at 1.020
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:04 pm
by jjj5311
so if i just add the live rock once i get to 1.020 that is all i need to do? Will i still have large water changes then? Thanks for your help I am totally new to SW
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:24 pm
by Pufferpunk
That is not a protein skimmer. I'm happy with the Backpac, for smaller systems.
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:48 pm
by xrayjeeper83
From what I understand on a tank that small once you got full marine, add live rock and something to move the water around, ie a old HOB filter empty, or a powerhead, and thats all the filtration you will need. And then you can do 25% or so once a month.
But dont take my word for that, as I have only read not done
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:06 pm
by sevenyearnight
+1 to xray, except I personally do weekly water changes, 10%-25%.
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:09 pm
by jjj5311
okay cool thanks guys that is what i was wondering. Now i just need to start collecting the LR and get the salinity up
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 4:26 pm
by Pufferpunk
Once you see the smelly, gross crap a protein skimmer pulls out, you'll wonder how anything lived in there!
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:46 pm
by sevenyearnight
Do you know how to cure the liverock?
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:23 pm
by xrayjeeper83
I wouldnt collect LR until your salt it up or it will die off
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:56 pm
by sevenyearnight
Unless he's planning on curing it in a seperate container. It needs to at least be quarantined.
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:50 pm
by RTR
IMHO a 29 with LR is no longer big enough for a GSP, if it ever was.
IME, a small polluted tank needs a skimmer every bit as much as a larger polluted tank. especially if the water volume is markedly reduced by sufficient LR in the display.
FWIW, YMMV.
Re: Going from low-end Brackish to full marine
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:32 pm
by jjj5311
I was planning on someday getting a bigger tank like 60 gallon cube our a corner tank I didn't want to start with something un manageable and I have been reading online about during the live rock which I plan to do in a tub that I have.. Whats your guys hints/food reading for curing lr