Eeeeewww...!!!
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Eeeeewww...!!!
Just came back from the Dr with antibiotics. Seems some funky crud got into the cuts on my hands when cleaning out my dirty filter/skimmer. My hand looks like an oozing, swollen lobster.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Eeeeewww...!!!
I hope it feels better soon, sounds like it hurts. Pictures?
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Yeah, if it hadn't kept me up last night, I might have rode it out.
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Re: Eeeeewww...!!!
Nasty!!
We would have thought you knew better
Hope everything turns out for the best and it doesn't become more serious.
We would have thought you knew better
Hope everything turns out for the best and it doesn't become more serious.if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...
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Re: Eeeeewww...!!!
I still don't think gloves are in my future. You'd think I'd build up an immunity to this crap already, that's why I hate antibiotics.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Look what we're up against!
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Re: Eeeeewww...!!!
Pufferpunk wrote:I still don't think gloves are in my future. You'd think I'd build up an immunity to this crap already, that's why I hate antibiotics.
I'm missing why you won't wear gloves?? I don't wear them in my fresh water tanks, but in my reef, every time my hand goes into the tank I put on a glove. There's too many things crawling around in the rocks that I'd rather not get stung by, not to mention what has happened to you.
I hope it gets well soon!
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M. marinium is nasty stuff and really hard to clear. I do hope that it is not that.
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I figured out that this is from palys in my tank. The skimmer body was gross with crap from my tank & I'll bet anything there was some zoa juice in there.
It was looking a little better yesterday:
It was looking a little better yesterday:
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OMFSM, I just read that article that PP linked to.
HOLY CRAP!! I absolutely hope that's not what you're experiencing, PP!
If it's technologically possible and interesting to others, can you Admins set up an online poll to see how many folks wear gloves? And how many folks have experienced infections that they attribute to fishtank bugs?
At the very least, should that linked article become a sticky?!
HOLY CRAP!! I absolutely hope that's not what you're experiencing, PP!
I'm VERY curious about how many of us do and don't wear gloves. I don't currently, tho I seem to have a sinus infection right now, and I'm wondering how fast I can find some of those arm-length gloves.Pufferpunk wrote:I still don't think gloves are in my future.
If it's technologically possible and interesting to others, can you Admins set up an online poll to see how many folks wear gloves? And how many folks have experienced infections that they attribute to fishtank bugs?
At the very least, should that linked article become a sticky?!
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Re: Eeeeewww...!!!
PP - It looks like poison ivy. If it feels anything like it, I feel for you.
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Re: Eeeeewww...!!!
Nope, doesn't itch.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Wow! I just read that article and showed the images to my fiance. He replied jokingly, "I dont want the fish anymore". heh... Um, but that is very interesting. We have had fish die mysteriously in the past, although we marked it up to cotton wool fungus or velvet (even though some of the fish showed no symptoms whatsoever). Both of us frequently have our hands in the tank (moving decor, rearranging rocks, shifting the sand or plants, adjusting the heater (y'know stuff that we all do!) I dont believe he is as hygienic as me, but Ive become a hand-washing freak, every time Im out of the tank I scrub my hand and arms in hot water with soap. Even though I didnt know about this, the fact is that theres lots of bacteria and fecal matter in fish water, so Im not doing anything else or touching anything until I wash my hands. 
Ive been trying to get Tony to do this too. (Maybe those pictures will help XD).
I hope that stuff goes away!!! Ill remember never to put my hands in the tank if I have open cuts! Get better!!
Ive been trying to get Tony to do this too. (Maybe those pictures will help XD). I hope that stuff goes away!!!
Ill remember never to put my hands in the tank if I have open cuts! Get better!!"It is never easy, sweet child, to have a real gift: something else is withheld to compensate."
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Re: Eeeeewww...!!!
I have a feeling it's nothing more then the zoanthid toxin poisoning I've had several times before.
http://www.perverse-osmosis.com/Pervers ... toxin.htmlit is possible for zoanthid Palytoxin to enter the bloodstream through a cut or other open wound. Indigenous peoples from throughout the Indo-Pacific have known this for centuries and have regularly used Palytoxin derived from zoanthids in both hunting and warfare. In Hawaii, for example, the mucus from locally occurring zoanthids (known regionally as limu-make-o-hana) was used on spear tips for centuries. It is therefore perhaps not surprising that there have been several serious incidences of aquarists with open wounds (even a relatively small cut) becoming quite ill as a result of handling zoanthids without gloves
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"