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F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:34 am
by Bridget
A few months ago I changed my fw community tank for a brakish puffer tank. I was advised that my 80 litres would be fine for 3 GSPs and 3 F8s. I've read lots on this site and realise how wrong that is! I'm currently cycling (fishless) a new 450 litre tank for the Puffers. They show no signs of aggression...yet! They are still young though, I know as they grow my F8s will be in trouble.
I'm thinking of rehoming my GSPs and putting Gobies in with the F8s. I've also heard of Ceylon Puffers being good with F8s. Any other suggestions/advice? It's a huge tank for 3 F8s! The tank is planted with rocks & bogwood.

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:43 pm
by jmiller
Yes one of two has to go. That tank is large enough to keep either. If you keep the GSP's then you will need to eventually take then to full marine though. Puffers for the most part do not mix well with others and that includes there own kind. They become more aggressive as they get older.

If you want info on F8's and gobies look here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25003

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:16 pm
by Flutter
F8's are not suitable to live with ceylons. Some have had success keeping GSPs and ceylons while others have had serious issues. I'd stick with just F8's or F8's and BBGs.

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:48 pm
by Bridget
Thanks! I've accepted the GSPs will have to go. How many BBGs can I add? I'm assuming no other fish will go in?

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:04 pm
by bigfatfish
My vote is for the GSPs! But I maybe a little biased! & it is not essential that they are taken to full marine - they will do fine in mid to high end BW as they mature.

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:48 pm
by Bridget
I'm loathed to part with either! My reason for keeping the F8s is at least I can have some BBGs in there too, 450 litre tank with 3 fish in seems excessive!

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:02 pm
by J-P
ahhh but what a low end BW planted tank that would make :D

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:47 pm
by Bridget
How many BBGs should I put in my 450 litre tank with my 3 F8s? The tank is well planted with rocks and bogwood.

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:57 am
by Iliveinazoo
I've read 1 bumblebee per 20cm diameter of the tanks' footprint but you could probably get away with one or two more if you had rocks and plants creating different heights. You may also want to try a shoal of halfbeaks which stay at the top of the tank - I had one which was a bit of a bully to all of the other fish but my tank is much smaller than yours and they would probably spread the aggression amongst themselves instead of your puffers.

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:11 am
by RTR
I do not think mixing half-beaks with puffers is a good idea. Two aggressive fish housed together is asking for problems and not the best situation for either.

Many hobbyoists do many things which are not the optimum for the fish they keep. The fact that some "get away" with it does no make it the best living conditions.

Do you want to keep fish alive and healthy or do you want to watch fish fights.? If the first, this is the forum for you. If the latter, try Monster Fish Keepers.

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:11 am
by Iliveinazoo
RTR wrote:I do not think mixing half-beaks with puffers is a good idea. Two aggressive fish housed together is asking for problems and not the best situation for either.
I had read that if you keep a shoal of halfbeaks then their agression tends to be spread out amongst themselves and they then tend to ignore the other species in the tank. I do however bow to RTR's experience and knowledge in fish-keeping which is obviously more substantial than my own.

Re: F8 450 litre tank

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:14 am
by Pufferpunk
Do you want to keep fish alive and healthy or do you want to watch fish fights.? If the first, this is the forum for you. If the latter, try Monster Fish Keepers.
Great, RTR!