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2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:39 am
by sparks42

I've noticed there's F8s that look like this (lines all over, not many pronounced blobs/spots)



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And then there's some that look like this (some lines, very pronounced 8 and blobs/spots)

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Are there 2 different kinds ??? Are these male vs female ??? ..... curious .....

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:43 am
by PolishPuff
Last pic. looks like my F8 :D

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:44 am
by Pufferpunk
Just like our fingerprints, every pattern is different. F8s are identified by the black eyespots by their tail, not the "8" on their back. Biocellatus means twin-spot.
ug.php/v/PufferPedia/Brackish/T_Biocellatus/

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:49 am
by sparks42
could be your puffer, I just searched google and flickr and grabbed some pics.

Thanks for clarifying about the spots by the tail, still curious though, as to me this seems like a pretty striking difference.....

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:54 am
by pufferpuggirl
I think it's similar to the differences we see with Green Spotted puffers, which can vary a great deal. It has been said that possibly regional variations produce these different patterns. Even my Aqualog book hints at regional variances with some puffers.

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:06 am
by JRC3
And don't forget the dorsal "eye spot". I understood it that both the dorsal and tail eye spots combined are where the name "Figure Eight" came from.

Mine also has the larger patterns and spots. Wouldn't it be kind of cool to have one of each?

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:41 pm
by Hilly
Is it just me or does the next to last pic look more like a Ceylon.

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:08 pm
by pufferpuggirl
Nah, you can see the eye spot at the back. I just think it's the angle the photo has been taken from.

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:33 pm
by Hilly
pufferpuggirl wrote:Nah, you can see the eye spot at the back. I just think it's the angle the photo has been taken from.
Good point, must just be the angle.

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:23 pm
by RTR
Personally, I like the ones with reasonable 8s on their backs, but have kept many variants. It really is the bilateral ocellated spots which are the handy identifier for the species. Until we get real revision of the species. the two eyespots define the fish for the hobbyist, not at all the 8 on the back, or squiggles replacing it.

If only we had such easy identifiers for other species.

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:33 am
by JRC3
Here is a big version of the first op pic.
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Uncropped:
http://www.vergari.info/foto/pesci/Tetr ... oSpada.jpg

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:44 am
by Pufferpunk
Lots of spines there, great shot!

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 2:09 am
by mrgreen
sparks42 wrote:could be your puffer, I just searched google and flickr and grabbed some pics.

Thanks for clarifying about the spots by the tail, still curious though, as to me this seems like a pretty striking difference.....
definitely isn't.

Re: 2 Kinds of F8 ??? Different patterns

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:45 am
by pufferpuggirl
Wow, that's a lovely photo JRC3! What detail. :grats: