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Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:04 pm
by pufferpuggirl
Okay, I found some Kent Freshwater vitamins with spirulina on eBay for a VERY good price, and I ordered a bottle. It came and seemed very good. The seller had one more bottle and since the price was so low, I thought I should go for the other bottle just to have it on hand. So I ordered it. Thing is, it came today and instead of it being the Kent Freshwater, it's Kent Marine! :(

So my question is this -- Because we're talking about vitamins here, can I use the Kent Marine vitamins on a freshwater tank? I mean, it's just vitamins right, so will it matter that much? If I can't use it on my freshwater tanks, can I use it on my brackish tanks? It's not as if I'm really dosing the tank, more the food. So I'm just wondering what the real difference in the two is. I sent the seller a message saying that he's sent the wrong one, but other than me sending the bottle back (to Scotland) and paying for posting it back .... I guess I will have to keep it. I was hoping to be able to make use of it. :?

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:11 pm
by Pufferpunk
Maybe you could trade it into your LFS for a FW version? Thing is, there are different vitamin requirements for FW, than SW creatures. It's ok to mix the 2 (I soak my blackworms in both, since they are fed to both) but you might be lacking in FW vits, if you only use the SW ones.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:29 pm
by pufferpuggirl
But could I use the saltwater one with my brackish tank only, or is it still not quite right?

But you're also saying if I mix the two I should be okay? I have plenty of other freshwater vitamin by another manufacturer.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:39 pm
by Pufferpunk
I'd still try to trade it for FW vits if you can. With as many fish as you have, you must have an "in" with the LFS, no? I know mine would.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:02 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
I wish they'd put some sort of nutritional analysis on the bottle. I'd like to know how much of what my fish actually need - I don't want to overdose them.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:45 am
by Corvus
I'd use them for the biocellatus, nigroviridis, fluviatilis

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:03 am
by pufferpuggirl
Actually PP, I don't have any "one" LFS that I use regularly .... I wish I did have. I tend to get most of what I need from eBay, and only because the prices are so darn cheap compared to what they are at any of the LFS's near me.

Thank you Corvus, I will use those vits for my brackish puffers. I can't return them because I bought them off eBay and the shop is in Scotland, and none of the shops around here sell Kent Marine anyway. So I was hoping I could make use of them somehow since I have them.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:38 am
by Flutter
LilGreenPuffer wrote:I wish they'd put some sort of nutritional analysis on the bottle. I'd like to know how much of what my fish actually need - I don't want to overdose them.
The Vita (or something like that) stuff I use has the analysis on it. The Kent stuff doesn't? I don't buy a lot of things unless they have a (hopefully guaranteed) analysis on them.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:27 am
by Pufferpunk
I prefer Vita-Chem.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:09 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
Flutter wrote:
LilGreenPuffer wrote:I wish they'd put some sort of nutritional analysis on the bottle. I'd like to know how much of what my fish actually need - I don't want to overdose them.
The Vita (or something like that) stuff I use has the analysis on it. The Kent stuff doesn't? I don't buy a lot of things unless they have a (hopefully guaranteed) analysis on them.
I have FW Vita-Chem, and I didn't see it? But then again, I don't know exactly what a DP needs.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:04 pm
by Flutter
Nutritional requirements of a fish? Coming right up :) It's not puffer specific but a good place to start.

http://www.alr-journal.org/index.php?op ... lr3006.pdf

http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/124 ... /2633S.pdf

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:10 pm
by PolishPuff
I use VITA-CHEM

I dont know if I'm doing it right, but I would put 5 drops of Vita-chem on 1 cube of bloodworms.

Is that to much?

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:30 am
by pufferpuggirl
I sort of just pour some vitamin liquid over my bloodworms, don't bother measuring it.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:57 am
by Pufferpunk
That stuff is very concentrated. 1 drop while defrosting a single cube & then drain after an hour should be enough. I only add about 10 drops to a lb of them.

Re: Question About Vitamins for Freshwater Tank

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:32 am
by pufferpuggirl
Can I hurt my fish if I'm giving them too much vitamin? I tend to put all my bloodworm in a plastic container and then pour the vitamins over it, and then I dish out a little with a spoon to each tank that takes bloodworm. I've been doing it that way all along.