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Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:38 am
by sh1rang
Hi there, i'm new member here :D nice to meet u all. I wanna ask something about my puffer's tank, i got 4 T.Palembangensis (about 8cm each), i wonder if i can add another fahaka in my tank? thanks :)

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:45 am
by Nick
No,completely incompatible species. The baby palembangs will grow up and likely kill each other. A fahaka is a HUGE puffer, needing well over 100 gallons on it's own, and 120 gallon tanks are better than 125's, since they have a 2 foot by 4 foot footprint, which will give the puffer more room to turn when compared with the "common" 125, which has a footprint of 18 inches by six feet.

Depending on the size of your current tank, you will have to subdivide it,or get rid of some of the pelembangs before they hit puberty and become territorial an aggressive.

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:13 am
by pufferpuggirl
Heeeellllllll Nooooooo! Like Nick says, those palembangs will get territorial when they get a bit more mature, and certainly the Fahaka is going to outgrow them all and it won't be a pretty situation. :shock:

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:27 am
by Troender
And Fahakas are generally very aggressive puffers. I think the Fahaka is most likely to make trouble.

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:28 am
by Troender
BTW [welcome] :D

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:27 am
by Lil' Swimz$
How big is your tank?

[welcome]

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:06 am
by sh1rang
my tank's size 90x45x50 about 200ltr, aw.... so cant add more puffer then :( until now my palembang always hide in their cave and only comes out maybe twice a week lol cant see all of them oftenly hehe. wat about get rid 3 of them and add fahaka, is it still possible?
thanks (sory if my english was bad lol)

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:47 am
by Brandon8521
Your tank is only big enough for 1 fully grown palambang. And definitaly no where neer enough room for a fahaka.

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:13 am
by lilacamy931
Hello
Fahakas alone need 450 litres (120 US gallons) as they get extremely large:
ug.php/v/PufferPedia/Freshwater/T_Lineatus/
Fahakas get up to 18 inches and fast.

Palembangsis 150 litre minimum for one:
ug.php/v/PufferPedia/Freshwater/T_Palembangensis/
Palems get up to 8 inches.

As others have suggested you need to consider a restock of your current tank. Is it possible to see pics at all? Be interested to see the tank layout and the plalems (if you can catch them on camera!)

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:46 am
by pufferpuggirl
I think you're missing the point, aside from the fact that your tank isn't anywhere near big enough for a Fahaka, you CANNOT keep a Fahaka in with a Palembang. Palembang's are piscivore puffers, which means that they very well could injure or kill a small Fahaka, and even if that doesn't occur, a Fahaka, once full grown will most probably hurt or kill the Palembang. And these are two very different puffers, with different requirements. I think you need to rehome all but one of those Palembangs because it's only a matter of time before they will start to hurt one another, and I would be surprised if that isn't the case.

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:11 pm
by sh1rang
ow thanks alot for all ur comments, i'll try to upload some pic then but need some time cause have to borrow my bro's camera :( wat about dwarf puffer? can i put some in my tank? cause i dont see many activities in my tank :) or any other advice maybe? thanks :)

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:23 pm
by J-P
sounds like my stingray with a Fahaka Q a long time ago ... :) one or the other... I am happy you got the advice and avoided disaster :D

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:30 am
by lilacamy931
Dwarfs would be eaten, I think you need to sort the tank to a proper stocking level as the tank only big enough for the one palembang. If you are not happy with the palembangs activity level, maybe to restart over entirely? Sometimes certain fish just arent the right ones for you (amount of maintenance, not as expected, personality clash, etc).

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:54 am
by pufferpuggirl
What you need to remember is that those Palembangs are piscivores, meaning they eat fish. So basically anything you put in with them is going to be seen as a meal to the Palembangs.
Unfortunately Palembang puffers aren't very active, so maybe you should rehome them and get another puffer that is a bit more active. I think having all of them in that tank is a mistake personally, as they will end up getting particular as they mature.

Re: Fahaka in Palembangensis's tank?

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:42 pm
by sh1rang
I'll give some pics of my tank :)

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I made 2 caves there, first

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second one

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These are my beloved little puffies :lol:
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and the other 2 got red color

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now i'm trying to look for people that gonna keep some of them, so maybe i'll just keep 1 or 2 palembang :(
Please give some comment for my tank since this is my first puffer's tank :? thanks