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Did I make any mistakes? RE Tank cleaning

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:25 pm
by J-P
I e-mailed my mother. She was worried about her fish tank and the below was what I wrote.
1) do not wash the gravel in tap water. The tap water contains chlorine and that kills the beneficial bacteria.

Get a gravel vacuum / siphon and gently go over the surface of the gravel once. Then to do a deep clean, sink the mouth of they siphon into the gravel and let it rest until it becomes clear. Then move on to the next spot.

2) do not rinse your sponge and pumice (bio-filter) in tap water (same reason as above). in the bucket of water that you siphoned off you can rinse them in there and place it back into the filter.

3) dump that dirty water and replace with clean water. Do this in the same bucket you used for the dirty water and add the dechlorinator to that. Let that bucket rest for at least 1 hour (or up to the same temperature) before adding it to the tank. THEN add the fish.

10~20% water changes / cleaning done every week... but knowing your fish ... 50% + is better. Just don't rinse the sponge, pumice & gravel in the tap water.

On the topic of cloudy water:

white cloudy = danger ... usually means an ammonia build up because you just trashed your bio filter. This means your tank is cycling again and you should do water changes more frequently (but no cleaning). OR your bio filter can not keep up with the waste that is in the tank (fish waste and uneaten food). Remedy: more frequent smaller water changes.

Brown algae = diatoms. Usually happens after high water changes and the nutrient rich water feeds the diatoms. This will balance itself out after a while and they can be removed with a simple scrubber. You are going to get wet as you are not removing any water from the tank while cleaning. Also could mean a light / nutrient imbalance adjust the lights and or black out the tank for 48 hour periods.

Green water ... I don't think you have that problem, and BGA (blue green algae) is UGLY but is actually helpful in some ways. Always a lighting / nutrient issue.

If you do this you should never need a "clumping agent" to clarify the water.

There are 3 levels in your filter:

1) Mechanical - sponge Never rinse in tap water... use the old tank water you siphoned off

2) Biological - pummice Never rinse in tap water ... use the tank water you siphoned off

3) Mechanical / chemical Floss (mechanical) and or Charcoal (chemical) both of these are used to "polish" the water. Charcoal has the added benefit of removing medicine and chemicals. It also has the added $$. If you are not medicating there is really no need for it, but that is a personal choice. Floss needs to be replaced every few days or when it turns brown. Charcoal needs to be replaced every 2~3 weeks. Because of the high cost of charcoal, I vote for floss.

Hope this helps :)
J-P
TTYL!!
The highlighted areas are the ones I'm not 100% sure of. She has a 10 gal with 3 fancy gold fish. She is used to cleaning everything (including the gravel) every week. She does not do water changes ... just a scrub down weekly or bi-weekly.

any comments?

Re: Did I make any mistakes? RE Tank cleaning

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:07 am
by Nick
1) I have never heard of white cloudy being ammonia. Ammonia in the quantities it exists in tanks is colorless and odorless. While bacterial blooms and thus whitish cloudy water are common while the tank is cycling because nutrient levels other than the nitrogen cycle ones are also out of whack, the white in itself is not dangerous. Just test the water for ammonia, and if you find none, it's just levels of other nutrients that are out of balance, likely ones which are not toxic to the fish.

2) I'd say that as a blanket statement, just never use a clumping/clarifying agent period. It can mess your fish up. Large water changes to remove whatever is multiplying in the water will help remove the surplus nutrient causing the bloom, UNLESS it is from your tap water. I usually just do large changes until it's gone.

Re: Did I make any mistakes? RE Tank cleaning

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:00 am
by J-P
:) ahhhh yes...

thank you!

the white is probably that bacterial bloom!

Re: Did I make any mistakes? RE Tank cleaning

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:39 pm
by bastallard
For goldfish to thrive, they need 30 gal per fish.

Re: Did I make any mistakes? RE Tank cleaning

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:54 pm
by Pufferpunk
Yeah, I was gonna comment on the overstocking...

Re: Did I make any mistakes? RE Tank cleaning

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:14 am
by J-P
Yea I know ... and there are not little fish,, big fat moores...

Re: Did I make any mistakes? RE Tank cleaning

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:03 pm
by bazil323
For her very overstocked tank, I would say 50% daily water changes, especially if they are already large. A 45g would be more appropriate (30g for 2 and 15g for additional, at an absolute minimum).

Re: Did I make any mistakes? RE Tank cleaning

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 3:10 pm
by J-P
Well I can't push her to do more water changes nor get a larger tank. I just want to make sure she doesn't take EVERYTHING out of the tank, scrub it down and put it all back, weekly.

I can make the suggestion but I'm not going to argue about it with her.