constipated mbu!!

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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by Nick » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:26 pm

I wish there was something you could feed him to help dissolve/chemically break down the shell, but I've googled the crap out of the idea and can't find anything...
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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by matt willis » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:43 pm

SUCCESS!!!!
he has just passed 3 mussel shells ! what a relief its just like he has given birth lol
i put in one teaspoon for every 10g
i had the proffeser of cambridge veterinary colledge coming over with student to perform an enima as well. thank you everyone for your help
im over the moon we thought he was a gonna

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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by Pufferpunk » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:52 pm

Did he do the enema?
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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by matt willis » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:18 pm

he didnt need to thank god but he very interested in exotic fish and cuttle fish im keeping in regular contact with him, he said that if there is any problems he would be very willing to help so if anyone in england has a problem i will ask him if i can pass on his details.
it was going to involve a 1ml syringe some pipe and 5ml sticky liquid parrafin!!!!

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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by Nick » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:29 pm

Did he digest the meat out from inside them and pass empty shells?
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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by matt willis » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:40 pm

they were empty so he had digested the good bits, im just worried because he is a greedy fish and he sometimes swallows things whole and he might not be so lucky next time

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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by Nick » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:47 pm

I guess only feed him ones too big to get into his mouth?

In theory, most animals are built so that if it fits in one end, it fits out the other, but you can never be sure something won't get wedged somehow, like happened here.
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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by matt willis » Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:53 pm

this guy has one big mouth!!!
any other suggestions on other food that is readily available???

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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by Dadof4 » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:47 pm

Glad to hear he finally passed it!
"This too shall pass"

Oh, Nick...I don't know about that what goes in fits going out thing, I've seen some humans eat some pretty big things. Does this mean they are huge...nevermind.... :lol:
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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by HKmatt » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:40 pm

Hi all,

My mbu have the same problem, I noticed it have no poop for four day and not eating right.

25 gallon
PH 8, no2 # 0.01, ammonia # 0.1, no3 # 12.5, oto #0
Fish size 4 inches

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Re: constipated mbu!!

Post by Pufferpunk » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:40 am

A 4" puffer belongs in a 55g & a mbu will even grow that tank out in a couple of months.
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For constipation: 1 tbsp Epsom salt/5g.
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