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f8 brakish or what

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:51 pm
by kevinjgray88
i bought a f8 and the pet store never said if it was brakish or just fresh and every site has its own opinion. will it be fine in just fresh which he is in now. and i have a 5 gallon tank with just him in it is that fine?

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:09 am
by Flutter
The tank is way too small, check the PufferPedia. Also, Figure 8's can survive in FW but need BW to do well :) So yes, it needs BW.

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:32 am
by purplecandle
Please make sure that you actually have an F8. Some stores like Walmart have been selling green spotted puffers as F8's.

I mention this because I am suspicious of your local pet store...most good pet stores will say brackish water..but bad ones (like walmart) will try to sell F8s and GSPs as freshwater

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:32 am
by kevinjgray88
well that sucks i thought i read 5 gallons for each puffer. how big do the f8s usually get. will he at least survive in the 5

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:34 am
by kevinjgray88
purplecandle wrote:Please make sure that you actually have an F8. Some stores like Walmart have been selling green spotted puffers as F8's.

I mention this because I am suspicious of your local pet store...most good pet stores will say brackish water..but bad ones (like walmart) will try to sell F8s and GSPs as freshwater
its green and has the black eight with yellow rings around the black

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:37 am
by purplecandle
Awesome! Welcome to Puffer Parent Hood!

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:39 am
by kevinjgray88
purplecandle wrote:Awesome! Welcome to Puffer Parent Hood!
ya it is for sure an f8. will it be fine in the fresh? and if not how hard is it to get brackish.
plus its in a 5 gallon by himself should that be ok as well

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:41 am
by kevinjgray88
kevinjgray88 wrote:
purplecandle wrote:Awesome! Welcome to Puffer Parent Hood!
ya it is for sure an f8. will it be fine in the fresh? and if not how hard is it to get brackish.
plus its in a 5 gallon by himself should that be ok as well
also if i give him a snail a month is that ok enough to keep his teeth down

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:52 am
by Pufferpunk

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:05 am
by LilGreenPuffer
Some people will tell you that it's fine to keep a F8 in fresh water. This is untrue. It decreases the fish's lifespan and makes it more susceptible to disease. It's quite detrimental to their overall health.

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:57 am
by RTR
F-8s are best in light BW, and best there with aragonite substrates, not inert ones. Keeping them in FW will cut their life in half and make the prone to many illnesses. If you cannot provide the proper conditions, it is better not to keep the fish.

Very few stores (or web sites) know anything about puffers at all. Here you get the real info.

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:46 am
by TSI431
I can only assume this tank is not cycled due to you not knowing about an F8. Do you have a filter and heater at least in the tank? If it is not cycled you need to just give the puffer back to the fish store and get your tank cycled first. What are your tank parameters? Ammonia Nitrite Nitrate PH Temp. This could also be your problem with the fish not eating. They don't eat flakes or pellets.

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:18 pm
by kevinjgray88
TSI431 wrote:I can only assume this tank is not cycled due to you not knowing about an F8. Do you have a filter and heater at least in the tank? If it is not cycled you need to just give the puffer back to the fish store and get your tank cycled first. What are your tank parameters? Ammonia Nitrite Nitrate PH Temp. This could also be your problem with the fish not eating. They don't eat flakes or pellets.
i have a filter and heater i just got frozen bloodworms, thawed them out and he is loving them

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:22 pm
by TSI431
Also try some frozen shrimp. I cut mine up and feed them with tongs. Keep the shells on them to cut down on the beak growth.

Re: f8 brakish or what

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:30 pm
by Pufferpunk
How did you cycle this tank? Do you have test kits for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate? If not, please get them! What is your plan for upgrading this fish? It can't live in the 5g for long.