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Figure 8 Cloudy eye

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:22 pm
by Peregrine
Got home from work, and noticed that both my figure 8's had one cloudy eye each--opposite eyes (same side when they are facing one another)
What would cause that,
fight? (never shown any aggression to one another)
Scratch from a plastic plant (but on both?)
Cataracts (in fish?)
or is it indicative of another problem
Both fish are active and just ate-both eyes on each are still mobile
Tank is 29 gal
NitRAte=25
NitRIte =0
NH3=0
SG 1.005
PH=7.5-KH low as well but that is another post

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:34 pm
by Jayhawk
My experience has been some trauma is the most likely cause, but both having it is weird...makes you wonder if they ran into each other?

A little melafix won't hurt anything - may not help either, but it often make me feel better just to try something.

Eric

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:43 pm
by Pufferpunk
I'd try to get the nitrAtes a lil lower & add Melafix. It'll fix it right up.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:10 pm
by Peregrine
Never had to medicate before-melafix-hope its avail in canada...The nitrate will be lowered (weekly water change tomorrow), will do another mid week one if I need to..just hope there is no permanent dammage

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:35 pm
by Tihsho
I have encountered that when new figure 8's get their SG in their tank raised too high too fast.

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:02 pm
by Peregrine
how long after the last water change?
I have been raising it, on PP advice, and the article in the library stopped at 1.005...1.005 this week.1.004 week before..think it was around 1.002 when I started about a month, but that was before the refractometer..not too sure on those results from the swing arm hydrometer

Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:18 pm
by Bred
Melafix is available in Canada, don't worry.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:17 pm
by Tihsho
I would try using mela fix. If all goes well theres no problem.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:42 am
by Peregrine
Well treatment was semi-successful. (melafix and primafix) the one puffer that has always had a darker coloring (more distinctive), cleared up by sat-nite..the other deteriorated rapidly...both eyes became cloudy, and he became more and more pale..died Sunday :37: ...The one that lived, shows no signs of illness, eats and swims...although he has become more timid, hiding out at the back of the tank, behind the plants

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:28 am
by monsterpuffer
My condolences ...... I had a very similar experience several months ago, with the same result. I've never had much luck with medications though. As far as I can tell you did all the things you were suppose to. Sorry for your loss.

MP

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:13 pm
by Tihsho
Sorry for your loss.

*Note to all: Melafix and Pimafix are natural remedies, if you see any signs of ich, cloud eye, etc these are the best treatments that are puffer safe!*

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:31 pm
by Pufferpunk
Mela/Pimafix will not rid a fish of ich but will prevent secondary infections due to the parasite invading the fish's skin.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:46 pm
by Tihsho
Melafix (sorry should have mentioned) is not a direct cure as PP noted (thnx), but it does come in handy to help de-stress the puffs helping them be more prone for a remedy.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:03 pm
by Peregrine
Are u saying this was ich?...or just a side note to the medication...I am not sure myself as I have never really seen a fish with it.thought it was less likely in a BW environment. The puffer that did die-his fins went from translucent to whitish, opaque, not consistenly through out the fin, but radiating out from the base of the fin (rising sun). but not cotteny (if thats a word), like I thought a fungus would look like..I thought it was a sign of stress due to illness, than a symptom of the illness itself

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:05 pm
by Peregrine
Should I continue to medicate the tank, as a preventative measure,