Hi guys
just picked up this guy.....
i think he is a bit too thin for a dog face.. so got a bit of work on that
but im worried about his teeth.. is it time to practice puffer dentistry.. or will I get away by giving him hard shelled foods for now
I mean he is still eating....
what do you guys recommend???
Teeth requiring cutting?
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Teeth requiring cutting?
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
The belly is quite sunken in. Are there any other signs of IPs?
ETA: Gonna look gorgeous once it's in full health.
ETA: Gonna look gorgeous once it's in full health.
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
no idea.. ?!?!!?
but better treat him for ips anyways....
yeh need to fatten this boy up!!! .. thats for sure!
the guy I got it off has had him for 3 months.. he was feeding him krill at one stage and a thumbnail size prawn everyday???
definitely need to be increased.....
but better treat him for ips anyways....
yeh need to fatten this boy up!!! .. thats for sure!
the guy I got it off has had him for 3 months.. he was feeding him krill at one stage and a thumbnail size prawn everyday???
definitely need to be increased.....
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
Awww good luck with the cutie. I think if I were in your shoes I'd skip treating it with IP meds and just focus on feeding him lots of crunch, meaty seafood soaked in vitamins right now. Good luck with this little guy, he's so adorable!
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
somewhat off topic, but are IPs contageous? i recently got a DP that appears to be thinner than she should be, and she doesnt eat very well... i sort of suspect something is going on, but i got her less than a week ago, so im not sure if she is just small and the petstores DP tank was over crowded maybe she just didnt get a chance to eat cause she was so small... mabye shes just settleing in? i need to know if they are contageous... it may be of some use to the topic starter since they have other inhabitants in their tank as well
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
They are most definitely 'contagious'. If they weren't then fish would never get them 
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
ok kewl.. I can do that! =)recombinantrider wrote:Awww good luck with the cutie. I think if I were in your shoes I'd skip treating it with IP meds and just focus on feeding him lots of crunch, meaty seafood soaked in vitamins right now. Good luck with this little guy, he's so adorable!
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
hmmm... true... ive never dealt with IPs before... all i have is an extra 3gal laying around... opinions? return her or try and treat in a 3gal hospital tank that wont be able to cycle due to small size? and id have to change the water every day, so would that hinder the medicine from working?Flutter wrote:They are most definitely 'contagious'. If they weren't then fish would never get them
PS- im gonna start my own thread about this in a min... it was just convienent because we were already on the subject.... flutter, and anyone else, would you mind responding on my new post? PLS? itll be in the hospital section... i appreciate it.
sorry for hijacking this thread a little... trying to keep it on subject by starting my own thread about it
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
hehe thats cool
i would have read this in the other sections anyways... with some interests! =)
i would have read this in the other sections anyways... with some interests! =)
Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
I'm of the completely opposite view. IF your fish has IPs then it needs to be treated. You can't expect a fish to fatten up and get healthy when other critters are taking all of it's nutrients. Deworming is rarely hard on an animal and comes with a lot of benefits. With mammals at least it's one of the very first things you do and isn't dangerous unless the animal has an extremely high parasite load (then you need to deworm them slowly).recombinantrider wrote:I think if I were in your shoes I'd skip treating it with IP meds and just focus on feeding him lots of crunch, meaty seafood soaked in vitamins right now.
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
Yeah, as long as you've got to fed em, soak in meds. IMO, once the teeth are overgrown, no amount of crunchy foods will shorten them enough. Crunchy foods are to maintain teeth, not shorten them.
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
do you guys think his teeth are too long..... too long to be maintained??
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
It's not that extreme but may need clipping in the near future. Fatten him up & possibly treat him for IPs 1st.
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
ok got it! =)
thanks heaps guys
thanks heaps guys
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Re: Teeth requiring cutting?
hes a gorgeous puffer, definitely treat IP's first. post some pics when hes nice and fat!