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Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:23 pm
by PolishPuff
Sorry no video for this topic :whip2:

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:29 am
by Homer
Although i can't say for sure whether or not puffers are the smartest fish, i don't get why you used that video??? its just basically watching dwarf puffers eating snails for almost 4min, which in all honesty i don't see how it shows they are smart?

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:36 am
by LilGreenPuffer
I think they're pretty darned smart, but there are other fish, like sharks, that are smarter.

I'm also unsure why you picked that movie... But it's one of my favorites! I always thought it was cute and watched it all the time until I got my DPs. My friends thought they were vicious little brutes, though.

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:57 am
by PolishPuff
Homer wrote:Although i can't say for sure whether or not puffers are the smartest fish, i don't get why you used that video??? its just basically watching dwarf puffers eating snails for almost 4min, which in all honesty i don't see how it shows they are smart?
Homer sorry I took 3min and 35sec from you, this video targets DP's ability to know how, when and where to attack its pray.

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:10 am
by OCgatergal
wow, this vid traveled. I think I saw this one before without realizing your the owner

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:17 am
by PolishPuff
OCgatergal wrote:wow, this vid traveled. I think I saw this one before without realizing your the owner
I'm not, This video was shown at some forum where people talked about which fish is smart.

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:25 am
by OCgatergal
ohh..okay then.
Anyways, I think the puffer fish has a lot of competition but a lot of the sea's dominants are not fish then again for example whales, dolphins, octopus (arguably the smartest thing in the sea) along with other cepholopods

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:21 am
by Jivenjune
See, the thing is, I'm biased. I'm automatically inclined to say that puffers are, by far, the smartest fish regardless of what anyone would've posted :P

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:29 am
by OCgatergal
I'm google gal so I did a little research most are opinion pages
someone said blue ram which is I believe an obvious no. others said carp, no word on pufferfish came up though they may have forgot about them this was the only scientific one
"With the fish, the sharks and rays have the largest brain/body ratios - the manta ray has the largest of them all. In fact the manta ray seems to recognize something "special" about the human - somehow it allows humans to "ride" on it (and in fact it tries to "communicate" an "openness" to being ridden on). I've never heard of that sort of behavior outside of a few mammal species."

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:44 am
by PolishPuff
THX OC great research A+ :D

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:23 am
by Pufferpunk
I don't see why you let someone embarrass you into removing that vid.

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:23 am
by LilGreenPuffer
It's my favorite puffer video of all time. BRING BACK THE DPs!!!

If we can include non-fish aquatic animals, my vote goes to dolphins. If it's just fish, I'm standing by sharks.

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:31 am
by pufferpuggirl
I always thought that octopus and squid were very intelligent, as I've seen on tv where they set up an "obstacle" course, putting food at the end, so the octopus/squid (can't remember which one it was specifically) would have to go through the course to get to the food, and it always did. I also remember reading a short story on Practical Fishkeeping's site, that at a well-known aquarium some lights kept getting shorted out, and they kept replacing them, then they finally set up CCTV and found out that the octopus was squirting water at the lights, after hours, and shorting them out. So I think that shows intelligence. I'd like to think that puffers are the smartest fish, but if they aren't, I think they are in the top 5!!! :D

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:46 pm
by arapaimag
I've always thought that research has shown elephantnose are among the most intelligent fish. Their brain weight to body mass is the same as a dolphin.

Re: Are Puffers The smartest fish

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:59 pm
by Flutter
Cephalopods definitely. I love them.

As for fish, I don't know. Predators are often smarter but horses are generally smarter than dogs so who knows.