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Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:14 am
by fesoj_92
Hi, i have a tank that is filled with cyano-bacteries and i have been givin the tip to use somtihing called generaltonic to wipe the cyano away.
Could this harm my dwarf puffer in any way?
(sorry for my bad english)
// Josef

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Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:23 am
by Pufferpunk
I use ChemiPure for cyano. I've also heard of using Maracyn.

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:07 pm
by Myaj
Probably the same concept, throw in antibiotics to kill the cynobacteria.

I'm assuming there are puffers in the tank? Its never a good idea to add medications to a puffer tank if you can help it.

There are some different ways to discourage cynobacteria.. one of the ways that works best for me in all the times I"ve dealt with it was to really increase the current in the tank. You want that water moving a lot. Any "dead" or still areas are where the cyno likes to grow.

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:10 pm
by taureandragon76
May get rid of it but you still need to get to the cause of it otherwise it will keep coming back.

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:33 pm
by fesoj_92
tnx!
i have now begun the treetment and i realy hope that it will do the job.
Thanx for the help!
:D

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:31 pm
by fesoj_92
Oh, yet another qustion, how do i know when the cyano is dead? ^^

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:33 pm
by Pufferpunk
Follow the directions exactly. Did you remove all you could by hand before treating? Be sure to do the recommended water changes. You may have to treat twice.

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:17 pm
by fesoj_92
Pufferpunk wrote:Follow the directions exactly. Did you remove all you could by hand before treating? Be sure to do the recommended water changes. You may have to treat twice.
Yeah, this chemical is not for treating cyano but for treating "all" bacterial decisess so there were no real instructions, just guidelines. But i did have the correct doze in the water. an yeah, i did remove alot. As mutch as i could. The cemical stops working after 4 days according to the label on the bottle, should i change like 50% water and add new plus half a doze medicine? Or should i change 50% water, add carbon to the filter and wait a couple of days before putting new medicine in the water. (the first option seems best to me, because the cyano may come back in those non-medicine days)
(sorry for my spelling and grammar)
Thanx a lot!
//Josef

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:54 pm
by Pufferpunk
What exactly are you treating with? If it's an antibiotic, there is a good chance you will destroy your biological filtration, which is why I recommend only Maracyn or Chemipure for this.

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:33 pm
by Troender
fesoj_92 wrote:Oh, yet another qustion, how do i know when the cyano is dead? ^^
The color will change.

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:44 pm
by side19
could you use melafix to kill cyanobacteria? its an antibiotic, so in theory it would work, but do any of you know for sure? i'm pretty sure my green algae is cyano after looking up pictures.

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:23 pm
by taureandragon76
A simple 3 day blackout on the tank will kill of cyano

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:19 pm
by Pufferpunk
Melafix is not an antibiotic--more like an antiseptic.

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:42 am
by side19
ahh thanks for that PP. the bottle says antibiotic an i always thought that was why it helped heal wounds, by killing bacteria that could infect them.

Re: Puffers + cyano + General Tonic

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:59 am
by Iliveinazoo
taureandragon76 wrote:A simple 3 day blackout on the tank will kill of cyano
With a good ole large water change after!! :D

And as taureandragon76 said in his other post; if you don't fight the causes of algae the algae will always come back!

How long do you have the lights on for? May be worth cutting down by an hour or 2.