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Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:40 pm
by Browncloud
Thought i`d share this with ya all.
AKA,Milk spotted puffer.
Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:11 am
by Corvus
That's not a C. patoca.
That is a Takifugu niphobles, sometimes called grass puffer,
See fishbase
http://www.fishbase.org/summary/Species ... p?id=13077.
and puffer pedia. Don't keep it too warm.
This is one of the few puffers that are bred commercially in large numbers as food fish.
Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:16 am
by Pufferpunk
That's what I was thinking. That was one of the 1st puffers I ever owned. Got some really bad info on those guys.

Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:37 am
by Martin Hi.
hi corvus,
are you sure that species has been bred in captivity? never heard of that. as it is such a small species i do not think it is one of those that are bread for the japanese food-industry. they usually use much bigger species as takifugu chinensis, t. rubripes and t. obscurus.
martin
Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:38 am
by Corvus
Oh yes:
"Tiger and grass puffers were bred and reared in aquariums at the Aquaculture Research Station of Fukui Prefectural University."
from
"Experimental infection of several fish species with the causative agent of Kuchijirosho (snout ulcer disease) derived from the tiger puffer Takifugu rubripes"
by
Miyadai et al.
Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:03 am
by Martin Hi.
hi corvus,
interesting! any chance that you send me a copy of that?
but still: does it really say that they are breeding it for food? they are just too small and i have never heard of commercial breeding of this species for food!
by the way: did you get your payment for our last text? i did some days ago...
martin
Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 7:44 am
by Corvus
http://www.int-res.com/articles/dao/47/d047p193.pdf
Kusafugu (grass puffer) is still being imported to Japan and caught in Japanese waters as a food fish. Aside using this species as an experimental animal, the aquaculture institute given above is breeding it for money (commercially).
Since the "ripe" adults of this species are easily caught, because they are spawing on specific days and in known waters, breeding it is not too difficult and can replace wild caught specimens. Naturally, due to its size it is much less bred than tiger puffers, which are among the most bred fish in general.
Also see "Accumulation of tetrodotoxin and 4,9-anhydrotetrodotoxin in cultured juvenile kusafugu Fugu niphobles by dietary administration of natural toxic komonfugu Fugu poecilonotus liver" for sources of captive bred T. niphobles.
Yes, payment by ntv arrived.
Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:01 am
by Corvus
Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:59 pm
by Martin Hi.
hi, could not find anithing about food in the text.
but thank you!
martin
Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:20 pm
by Browncloud
Oooops...wrong pic...tee hee.
There ya go.
Re: Chelonodon patoca
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:31 am
by IkeepPuffers
Hey Browncloud, we had a discussion back then and maybe this would be of some help:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13095&start=0&st=0& ... lit=patoca
Anyway, is your puffer getting along fine? Mine is extremely fearful of me and whenever i approach the tank, it goes into the frantic swimming mode and it only feeds when no one is near the tank. Pretty strange puffer.