Did this happen to anyone else?
Deworming GSP
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Deworming GSP
I did the water treatment, waited 48 hours and did the second (which was Tuesday). He looks really skinny today-it's freaking me out. I'm wondering if it's because the worms died off? I mean REALLY skinny.
Did this happen to anyone else?
Did this happen to anyone else?
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Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
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cuteyiddlepuff
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Re: Deworming GSP
Today he looked thin again. Usually I feed him at night until his belly buldges and the next day he'll be thin again. I got Levamisole from my Aquatic Vet, I put him in a separate tank to treat him, used 1/4 of a ML (1 ML per 20 gallons) in five gallons. I kept him in there for two hours. I didn't see any worms so at this point I can assume either he has internal damage from parasites OR he has a high metabolism. I do hope he points on some weight.
PUFFER RULES
Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
Change water at least 1x a week
Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
Change water at least 1x a week
Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
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Re: Deworming GSP
IMO, you must treat food to get rid of IPs.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Deworming GSP
Levamisole is only effective against actual worms, much like praziquantel. In cases of protozoan wasting diseases, only metrodiazole or flubendazole will be effective.
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cuteyiddlepuff
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Re: Deworming GSP
He needs some metro in his food to get rid of the IPs.....no problem. I'm going to pick up some metro powder today and make a cocktail. I did one round of the tabs I'll do a WC today and start another round. Monk says Thanks 
PUFFER RULES
Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
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Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
Change water at least 1x a week
Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
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Re: Deworming GSP
No problem.
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Re: Deworming GSP
I just fed him a cocktail of Metro + 3 drops of Levamisole.
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Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
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Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
Change water at least 1x a week
Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
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Re: Deworming GSP
I'm removing Monk from his tank and putting him in QT until he's fully healed. I bought the Metronidazole Powder and am going to treat the water with that. The directions say to treat 1/4 teaspoon per 20 gallon and 25% water change every 24 hours followed by another treatment for 10 days. I soaked some food in this so hopefully this works. I might have to force feed him but I hope it doesn't come to that.
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Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
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Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
Change water at least 1x a week
Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
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Re: Deworming GSP
If you have only one fish in the tank, why QT him? You will want to eliminate the parasites in the main tank itself as well.
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Re: Deworming GSP
During the Metro treatment each day I need to do a large water change for 10 days so I figured it'll be easier to keep up with if I have him in a smaller tank as opposed to his regular tank. After I move him back to his regular tank I'm going to continue his food/water treatment so it won't reinfect him.
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Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
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Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
Change water at least 1x a week
Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
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Re: Deworming GSP
Make sure you move his filter to the QT with him.
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Re: Deworming GSP
I had him in QT last night and moved him back today b/c he is grey and I hate to him sad. I gave him some medicated food he ate a little and then spit the rest out. I tried force feeding him with a syringe last night but it didn't end up in his mouth b/c he was squirming.
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Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
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Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
Change water at least 1x a week
Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
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Re: Deworming GSP
Metrodiazole, flubendazole, and praziquentel, while most effective in food, will work well enough added to the water. Rather than mess around with lots of different things, I just use jungle labs parasite cure fizz tabs these days, they have metrodiazole and praziquentel. I treat the tank, do a 50% or so change two days after then treat again, and repeat in a week. Seems to work fine.
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Re: Deworming GSP
I'm still using the tabs to treat the water I just figured food will help kill this stubborn parasite!I did one round of the tabs today is the second round....hopefully this clears it up. I saw him poo, it's white and string-like.
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Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
Do not take your Puffer out of water (you can kill them)
Change water at least 1x a week
Change water immediately if there is high Ammonia/Nitrite/Nitrate
Monitor water levels (PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, SG,etc.)
Give your Puffer snails to wear down his/her teeth
Soak dry food with tank water/vitamin water
When buying a Puffer look for one with a fat belly
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Re: Deworming GSP
Even if he eats one mouthful, that's good enough to get some of the meds in there. White/stringy, isn't good healthy poo.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"