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T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:37 pm
by ToyotaRKeener
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Does anybody recognize this spot on my T. Abei? Sorry about the poor quality pictures. There is a darker patch of skin on his dorsal side with a white ring and a small lose object in the center.

-My first thought was that it could be anchor worm, but the dangling object does not look like the familiar worm of an anchor worm.
-My second thought was that it could be a mass growing or a blister, which broke the skin. Possibly even a wound from the driftwood? The white ring could be the skin peeling back and the dangling object could just be a flap of skin.
-Third thought was fungus, but it isn't really cottony.

Anyway, I picked up some triple sulfa to add to the tank to combat any bacterial infections that may be associated with it, but I don't want to use it if I don't have to.

Temp- 79F
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate <10
Soft, Neutral water

20 gallon long with mopani driftwood and some plants. Tank has been up for about a year. I just recently did a 50% water change on it to clean up the recent green blanketing algae that has been covering the wood and plants, it may be cynobacteria but I don't know. The water parameters before the 50 percent were the same except my nitrates were at about 30ppm.

The only reason I am considering a parasite is because I was recently given a large ball of java moss and I put that in almost 2 weeks ago. It wasn't doing well so I removed it. I know the lady who gave it to me though, and I trust her to not knowingly transmit a parasite, but it may not be present on her fish and still be in her water.

Anybody? Thanks

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:45 pm
by Jase
does it have any tank mates? looks kinda like a bite to me...

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:06 pm
by Nick
Looks like either a BAD bite, or a heater burn. Most likely a heater burn. I'd suggest getting a heater guard, or digging it into the substrate a bit so he can't easily wedge under it.

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:40 pm
by ToyotaRKeener
No other tank mates. I never even considered a heater burn. I will bury it down for now, and next time I go to the reptile shop I will pick up a heater cage. It does look just like a burn and he does like to wedge under it.

Any tips on treating? I am going to halt anti-biotic use and use a little Melafix.

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:49 pm
by Nick
I think melafix to speed healing is the best treatment, along with high volume water changes to keep the water very clean.

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:37 am
by ToyotaRKeener
Fantastic, I will update if I see any change.

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:43 am
by Nick
eggcellent

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:29 pm
by ToyotaRKeener
You know, now I don't know if it is getting better or worse. The little circle has filled in completely white, and the dangling skin is gone. I do not know if that is new skin regenerating or the start of an infection.

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:41 pm
by Nick
As long as you keep the water clean and use the melafix, infection is unlikely to set in to a fresh wound like this. While I have found melafix to be ineffective as an after-treatment once infections start, it seems to make wound heal very fast and clean if applied right away.

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:07 am
by Pufferpunk
If you had used that other antibiotic, your tank's biological system would have crashed. Good thing you asked 1st! What has been your water change schedule? Did you get a heater guard?

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:04 pm
by ToyotaRKeener
I did not get a heater guard yet. The place I have to get it at is about 45 minutes away, but my friend works there and I am going to have him grab me one on Thursday. For now, I moved the heater to an area where he cannot rest on it. It was originally in the bottom corner laying parallel to the sand with a small gap in-between the sand and the heater. He would just rest in that area and I never even considered it causing a burn. I moved the heater to the top of the tank about an inch from and parallel to the water line. I have not seen him anyplace near it since he doesn't like to spend too much time on the surface.

Yeah, I knew that if I used the Triple Sulfa, it would not discriminate between good and bad bacteria. I would rather re-cycle the tank than lose my fish though so if the anti-biotics were needed, I would have had no problem using them.

Oh, and I do about 25% weekly water change along with a stir of the sand and a rinse of the filter media.

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:16 am
by ToyotaRKeener
Update- The wound looks as though it is healing well. It is still a white patch, but I think that is just a lower layer of skin or flesh. I have been medicating daily with melafix, and doing partial water changes regularly.

Thanks for the advice guys. If it regresses at all I will be sure to update again.

Re: T. Abei strange spot on back

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:05 pm
by Jase
good to hear