Annabelle IP's (From Tapeworms to Camallanus worms)
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Do you have to tranq her to force-feed? I thought she was pretty good with you handling her. I'm still not sure with dead worm in her stomach, she could digeest any food. Too bad she can't digest the worm! Have you tried PMing Puffer Queen at MD? She never responded to your Q on there?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
When I tried to feed her with just the syringe and no tube she spit it all out. The only other way would be to tube feed her. I don't think she would stay sill for that. And I don't want to take the chance that she will bite the tube off and accidentally swallow it.
I didn't post in marinedepot about Annabelle because she's freshwater. I thought pq only did saltwater. I'll go post it now.
I didn't post in marinedepot about Annabelle because she's freshwater. I thought pq only did saltwater. I'll go post it now.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
I think if all you post about is a puffer with worms, it shouldn't matter. The Q is about whether to force-feed her at this point or not. I'm sure your lovely pics will be appreciated by her. 
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
I did the long story short version to update her on what's been going on. Then I linked this post so that she can look at the pictures. I'll post here once I get an answer.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Annabelle is mad at me. 
But the good news is I measured 8 ml of pureed shrimp in the syringe. This time I used a bigger syringe with a long tip so that she had to swallow and couldn't spit everything out. Of course when I put her back in the tank she spit out another mouth full. After feeding her I poured the water out of the bowl and I only measured 5 ml of pureed shrimp. I'm hoping that I got at least 3 ml in her tummy. It's not full and round but it felt like I got something in there. And I didn't use a tube. 
She is a little more perky tonight and I'm about to do another water change. She actually tried to get away from the net. She's tired of being picked at. Oh and no sign of worm, her anus is closed and not swollen. I tried to feed her normally first but she would just swim away. So that's when I decided to try with the bigger syringe. Now only time will tell. I'll keep you posted.
But the good news is I measured 8 ml of pureed shrimp in the syringe. This time I used a bigger syringe with a long tip so that she had to swallow and couldn't spit everything out. Of course when I put her back in the tank she spit out another mouth full. After feeding her I poured the water out of the bowl and I only measured 5 ml of pureed shrimp. I'm hoping that I got at least 3 ml in her tummy. It's not full and round but it felt like I got something in there. And I didn't use a tube. She is a little more perky tonight and I'm about to do another water change. She actually tried to get away from the net. She's tired of being picked at. Oh and no sign of worm, her anus is closed and not swollen. I tried to feed her normally first but she would just swim away. So that's when I decided to try with the bigger syringe. Now only time will tell. I'll keep you posted.Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Great job! No lumps? Any response from Kelly?
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
i think you are on the right track..
give her energy at least.
give her energy at least.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
No response from pq yet. Here are some pictures I got of Annabelle last night before I went to bed. I'm certain now that I got some food in her. Depending on how you look at her I can see a little lump. But I'm so happy to see a "food" tummy again.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
that is good news....
great job mom......
way to go annabelle.........
great job mom......
way to go annabelle.........
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Here are a few from this morning:
And one of a pretty "butt". As you can see not swollen, not red, and "NO WORM!" 
And one of a pretty "butt".
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
I'll be doing one more water change on her tank today. Do you think I should treat her with epsom salt one more time?
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
..............yeahhhhhhhhhhh annabelle......she looks great.......
you are indeed the best puffer mom i've ever known.....
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
is she swimming again..? Looks at least like she's moving around more.. or am i imagining it?
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Not swimming around as in prowling for food just yet. But she is hanging out. She goes from one spot to another and she's starting to fan out her tail again. Her color is extremely light and now she tries to get away from me. She thinks I'm going to catch her again. I guess that's all a good sign that she's feeling better.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Annabelle started to swim around for about a minute and I noticed that she "still" has some worm. I'll try to feed her tonight and she if see she eats on her own if not then I'll syringe feed her again. Hopefully she will pass the rest of it.
Do you think I should treat her tonight with epsom salt?
Do you think I should treat her tonight with epsom salt?
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