Annabelle IP's (From Tapeworms to Camallanus worms)
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Not moving, not eating, shallow breating.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
maybe a big water change will kick start her again...
getting rid of some of the meds/salt in there might bring her round.
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getting rid of some of the meds/salt in there might bring her round.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Today is day 3 of the treatment. Second round prazipro. I was planning to do a water change on sunday and monday. But I think I'm going to do it tomorrow instead, then one on sunday and probally another on monday. I'll be adding carbon in her filters tomorrow with the water change. I just want to finish this second treatment with prazipro. I'm hoping all the worms are out but I don't know how to tell for sure.
I'm also dosing her tank with 1/2 tsp of vit. c and 1 100mg. capsule of beta-glucan per day. I'll check on her again when I get home from work.
I'm also dosing her tank with 1/2 tsp of vit. c and 1 100mg. capsule of beta-glucan per day. I'll check on her again when I get home from work.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Anymore signs of the worms?
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
i do agree.. i think there may be too many meds in there now.. double dosing IP's meds.. epson salt, melafix, primafix...Pandora114 wrote:Do the waterchange tonight.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
I did a large water change, and redosed prazipro. I haven't dosed with anything else. I was waiting to finish the prazipro treatment. I did redose once in the last 2 days with epsom salt.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Did she at least perk up a bit after?
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
That was a few days ago. I don't think she did. I just had a good look at her and there is more worm. It's not as thick as it was in the beginning it's more like a strand of hair now. You can barely see it in the picture.
Getting ready to do a water change.
It's not as thick as it was in the beginning it's more like a strand of hair now. You can barely see it in the picture. Getting ready to do a water change.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
And I noticed that she has a lump again. Not like before but it's not flat like it was yesterday.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
wow you are a tough and dedicated puffer owner!
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
LOL, I think we've grossed out a bunch of folks on another forum I linked this thread to!
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
It's definitely the most gross one i've seen on TPF in my time here...Pufferpunk wrote:LOL, I think we've grossed out a bunch of folks on another forum I linked this thread to!
The only thing you can do now is large water changes, see if flushing the tank just gives her that push to keep going.
You are going to have to feed her soon though, or she'll be too weak and give up.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
It's also the most gross thing I've ever dealt with.t1gerbee wrote:It's definitely the most gross one i've seen on TPF in my time here... (Pufferpunk wrote:LOL, I think we've grossed out a bunch of folks on another forum I linked this thread to!
Here's the update for the day. Another 3-4 inches of worm. This time it looked clear, not white. I tried to feed her and she still refused to eat. I'll do another water change when I get home tonight.
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Re: Annabelle IP's and Ich with pictures
Looking for finquel, Drsfostersmith is on backorder until 1/29/09. I check 10 other petstores online and noone carries it. Any ideas?
Should I get this, sounds like the same stuff TRICAINE-S (MS 222):
http://www.wchemical.com/TRICAINE-S-MS-222-P43C7.aspx
I also emailed a friend to see if there is any in her area. If I'm going to have to tube feed Annabelle, I would rather have the finquel and not use clove oil. How long can she go without eating? I think we are on Day 12. I lost count.
Edit: Found some. Don't know when I will get it. Here's the link just in case anyone else needs it.
http://www.fancykoioutlet.com/supply/me ... oveoil.htm
Should I get this, sounds like the same stuff TRICAINE-S (MS 222):
http://www.wchemical.com/TRICAINE-S-MS-222-P43C7.aspx
I also emailed a friend to see if there is any in her area. If I'm going to have to tube feed Annabelle, I would rather have the finquel and not use clove oil. How long can she go without eating? I think we are on Day 12. I lost count.
Edit: Found some. Don't know when I will get it. Here's the link just in case anyone else needs it.
http://www.fancykoioutlet.com/supply/me ... oveoil.htm
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