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Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:00 pm
by Capt Dorsal Fin
Blaine wrote:I appologize if I was abrupt or rude but we were just trying to get to the root of things to do what's best for the fish. I appreciate that you are trying to do the best you can for your fish. Also if he was the one to insult me and my dog. You sound very reasonable and considerate.
We are not trying to bash you or berate you for your intentions....but there is a mininum standard that is necessary to keep fish from SW or BW.I may have come off as a bit intense but it was because I was trying to get this across to the post-er.
Not to belittle you but it might be best to hand off the puffer to someone more prepared to keep fish of this difficulty. Not saying that you couldn't pull it off but you need to be prepared to purchase the necessary equipment and do what's right for the fish.
If you want to keep the fish then you need to get some test kits and a hydrometer or refractometer asap (like yesterday) and some marine salt. You will have to do daily (maybe twice daily) tests on the water quality and ensure that Ammonia and Nitrite readings stay low so as not to stress the fish. It will take about a month of this before the readings stabilize and you show healthy Nitrate readings to ensure a safe environment for the fish. It will take daily water changes to keep the readings low enough to keep the fish healthy and a move to a larger tank as soon as possible (within a month or so)
Please do the suggested readings and decide what you would like to do. We are behind you and will support your decision and will try to help as best we can.
I agree Blaine. Thanks, and I'm sorry he offended you. I'm really embarrassed.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:03 pm
by greenspottedlover
To add to what Blaine said. Keeping a puffer can be fairly challenging, but as long as you are aware of there needs the most difficult part is keeping up with there tanks cleaning. Keeping a puffer I'm sure you CAN do, but be ready for a lot of work.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:05 pm
by Pufferpunk
I'm confused... are there 2 people posting as CDF?
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:08 pm
by Capt Dorsal Fin
Pufferpunk wrote:He is moving the fish to a 55g over this weekend, which should take care of all the cycling problems. Blaine is right though, you need to keep the puffer alive that long in an uncycled tank or none of that will matter. Only way to do that is by testing & doing appropriate water changes, accordingly.
"He" is a she.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:11 pm
by Capt Dorsal Fin
greenspottedlover wrote:To add to what Blaine said. Keeping a puffer can be fairly challenging, but as long as you are aware of there needs the most difficult part is keeping up with there tanks cleaning. Keeping a puffer I'm sure you CAN do, but be ready for a lot of work.
It's just something I wish I knew about all the upkeep... before we brought puff home. poor guy.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:13 pm
by greenspottedlover
another thing is puffers need crunchy food, Live snails for instance. Are you addressing this? If you do keep him you may want to setup a snail breeding tank , maybe in the 10g.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:17 pm
by Capt Dorsal Fin
Capt Dorsal Fin wrote:greenspottedlover wrote:another thing is puffers need crunchy food, Live snails for instance. Are you addressing this? If you do keep him you may want to setup a snail breeding tank , maybe in the 10g.
The snail thing I did know. But thanks! I do have 2 10 gallons- one could house snails if I decide to keep puff. And, they (snails) love to eat zucchini!
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:18 pm
by greenspottedlover
Great so if snails aren't new to you then food shouldn't be a problem.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:25 pm
by Capt Dorsal Fin
greenspottedlover wrote:Great so if snails aren't new to you then food shouldn't be a problem.
No, I think I have food covered. Snails, a variety of frozen food (4 different kinds I believe we got), Blood worms and shrimp.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:26 pm
by Pufferpunk
Sounds like you need a new BF.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:28 pm
by greenspottedlover
hmm... how old are you? jk

Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:31 pm
by Capt Dorsal Fin
greenspottedlover wrote:hmm... how old are you? jk

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I just turned 30.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:35 pm
by Pufferpunk
At the ripe old age of 51 & been married for 20 years, don't waste your time with someone who isn't the right one.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:36 pm
by greenspottedlover
Capt Dorsal Fin wrote:greenspottedlover wrote:hmm... how old are you? jk

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I just turned 30.
And... yeah, the comment about the BF is probably sadly true.
Oh that was about Puffer Punk's post, but I don't think you'd be interest in a 16 year old, though I was only joking.
Re: HELP. How much salt do I add to a 10 gal. tank?
Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:38 pm
by J-P
Pufferpunk wrote:He is moving the fish to a 55g over this weekend, which should take care of all the cycling problems. Blaine is right though, you need to keep the puffer alive that long in an uncycled tank or none of that will matter. Only way to do that is by testing & doing appropriate water changes, accordingly.
Well a 55 is going to be good, but it won't eliminate the cycle, just make it easier to cope with. Don't forget to see if you can get a good quality test kit next time you're out and about (if you don't already have one). It helps a lot.
Capt Dorsal Fin wrote:At this point, I almost feel that if he is going to be leaving this puffer here most of the time, I need to bring said puffer to a place that can handle it. I would love to keep the little guy, but I just feel like there is so much to learn in such a short time. ... It's apparent that I/we don't have the equipment here to handle him...
Ohhh you don't know the half of it! LOL!!! It is not that hard really. Later, you'll need a product called "Instant Ocean" as mentioned and a decent credit card called "instant upgrade".

The only difference between puffers and many other fish is the tank requirements. All the equipment is basically the same.
For BW you'll need the tank, a filter (I'd rate the filter 1 size larger than the tank you're planning), a hood / canopy, heater, test kits, hydrometer and marine salt. The hydrometer and marine salt are really the only things different from any other tank.
For SW it is a different story. Got that card ready? Live rock, skimmer, different test kits and possibly some lighting.
I didn't include lighting, decor or substrate in the BW set up because it is more personal choice. They can be kept in bare tanks, but I don't think many would advise on it.
BTW .. don't feel bad. I was in the EXACT same position you 2 were in a while back...
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What was the name of that card?