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Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:01 pm
by Flutter
I really like how it's coming along! You know it's a big tank when you need multiple photos to cover it! :lol:

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:40 pm
by J-P
I upped the CO2 injection a little yesterday and got new results
New Tank stats:
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0~.05
Nitrate 15~20
KH6
GH 9
PH 7.3 ~7.2
Phosphate 2.5 ~3

PH & KH dropped, GH, Nitrates and Phosphates went up.
CO2 saturation is aprox 11ppm (in the green zone)

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:49 pm
by RTR
Er, um, CO2 is way below saturation at 11ppm. I believe that is Canadian for "concentration" Meooow! ;)

However, that is not bad CO2 at all for a tank with weirs.

Keep an eye on that KH.

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:52 pm
by J-P
Yes, concentration ... maybe it would have been more clear if I had saturation "level". :) I am at the bottom if the breen zone according to:

http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_co2chart.htm

But, I am measuring the end of the top tank and not the 210 long where the actual CO2 is being dispursed. I have a feeling the KH /PH levels are equal in the entire tanks VS. the CO2 levels that may be only in the bottom 210 section.

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:44 am
by RTR
Saturation level CO2 is called tank wipe-out. Haven't you hard about end-of-tank "dumps"? It is also called acid. Talk about pH problems...

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:49 pm
by J-P
I have heard of that but am not too familiar with it. As the CO2 rises the water becomes more acidic.
According to : http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_co2chart.htm
optimum CO2 is 10~25.
I don't think should go higher than 15 as the plants are doing well in a lower range (except for 1 species)

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:09 pm
by RTR
Chuck Glad's info is overall A-1 (and I don't say that lightly), but is not really the current mode for quite a lot of the super planted tank nuts of the current mode. Those folks can run super-high light and supplements and actually may well need it all - including CO2 at 30ppm or a bit more from early in the light cycle to die down during the last lighted hour. They actually can run at photosynthetic saturation levels - which would scare the socks off me. Very few labs can or will do that unless they are studying photosynthesis - and never in 'scaped tanks. We are talking real knife-edge stuff here. I am confident that you do not want or need that - it would be effectively impossible in your system. those tanks are one-of, strictly and absolutely. They require tighter controls that the most advanced reef tanks, and pretty much computer control of slavish dedictaion to the tank's needs. I don't think that anybody could pay me enough to do that. That is no longer a hobby - that is work, and all too close to or worse than rocket science. Maybe more akin to fireworks R &D. Not my thing at all.

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:03 pm
by DarkStorm
i keep checking back here to see the " ive changed my mind im going marine", alas its not today. :P

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:17 pm
by J-P
DarkStorm wrote:i keep checking back here to see the " ive changed my mind im going marine", alas its not today. :P
haha I don't discriminate, marine looks wonderful. BUT, here are some updated pics:

I haven't even thought about aquascaping yet and I am very happy with how the tanks are looking Image

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:54 pm
by Flutter
I think you should go marine too. Why don't you pop those plants in the mail and I'll give them a home :)

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:58 pm
by J-P
LOL!! if you want to buy the tank, it comes with a free house!

Image

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:13 pm
by DarkStorm
looking great you've done a nice job. i threw out a ton of plants when i decided to make the change .should have givin em away i suppose.

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:25 pm
by J-P
Since the thaw is here and considering I can't do my "bamboo forest theme for one of my tanks, I decided that I should go with more rocks :)

Anyone visiting the Algonquin area is more than welcome to drop by and scoop some free granite for their tanks.

As an added incentive, with every 3 night stay you can get your choice of racoons from "the clan" :D

Now I just have to find a layout / design that will work and looks nice :) Any inspiring ideas out there?

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:46 pm
by Flutter
Ooo, I'll come over then. I'd like 2 racoons ready for me when I get there. I expect them to be caged and tamed. Bonus if they're fixed.

Sound good? :lol:

Re: Help! J-P's Set up

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:05 pm
by J-P
sorry not fixed, but tame yes.

No cage included, but I can help you tie it down to the roof rack ;)