White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Ladybgemini
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
One is dying, he;s just being blown around in the current in the water, fins not moving at all
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
I'm afraid you may lose that one.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Ladybgemini
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
Pufferpunk wrote:I'm afraid you may lose that one.
He's vanished, cant find him anywhere
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
Probably dead behind something. You should get him out of there.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Ladybgemini
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
Pufferpunk wrote:Probably dead behind something. You should get him out of there.
He's still alive, Just about, he's by the filter
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
Sometimes they take a long time to die. They may even stop moving and appear to stop breathing. You might want to consider euthanasia.
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Ladybgemini
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
purplecandle wrote:Sometimes they take a long time to die. They may even stop moving and appear to stop breathing. You might want to consider euthanasia.
He is trying so hard to swim, he;s got some fight in him thats for sure.....
Whats the best method for this?
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
Here is and article of fish Euthanasia - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18520
But, if he has still got some fight..have you tried a water change?
But, if he has still got some fight..have you tried a water change?
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
I did a small one already, should i do another one?purplecandle wrote:Here is and article of fish Euthanasia - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18520
But, if he has still got some fight..have you tried a water change?
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
The clean water may perk him up, might start his recovery...but be prepared for the worst. Once damage has been done, it is hard to un-do it. In other words, another water change would not hurt and is worth a try.
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Ladybgemini
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
Sadly, about half an hour after the water change, my little baby pased away :-(
the other two are ok, still swimming about and acting normally, no less spots though
If they die I am just gonna strip tank and sell it, I can't go through this again with em
:-(the other two are ok, still swimming about and acting normally, no less spots though
If they die I am just gonna strip tank and sell it, I can't go through this again with em
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
I figured that one might pass.
What's the temp now? Are you still adding salt with every water change? Add Melafix to help sooth/heal the skin damage done by the parasites.
What's the temp now? Are you still adding salt with every water change? Add Melafix to help sooth/heal the skin damage done by the parasites.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Ladybgemini
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
Pufferpunk wrote:I figured that one might pass.
What's the temp now? Are you still adding salt with every water change? Add Melafix to help sooth/heal the skin damage done by the parasites.
Temp is approx 88...yes I have replaced salt with each WC.
How much Melafix, I'm scared of that stuff with these fish. I have removed about 5 litres of water to allow the filters to cascade into the tank so roughly 55 liters of water in there atm...
The other two are still going strong, they look almost a bit fuzzy today if that makes sense, still spotty but like a white mist around them...They have been hunting for snails this afternoon, such characters and a pleasure to watch, i just want them better x
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
I use 1 drop/g. Add an airstone or make sure there is good flow for O2 exchange.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Ladybgemini
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Re: White spots on colomesus puffers....pls help
There is already an air stone in there and judging by the way plants are moving there is very good water flow in the tank.
So I would add 14 drops?
So I would add 14 drops?