That's the downside to keeping puffers, you get so attached to them, and in a short time something can happen to snatch them away from you.
Worried About Uno
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Worried About Uno
Thanks Lesley, and thank you Tracy. I just thought he was doing so well. His colouring was good, his eye socket had healed over and he had a great appetite. Whatever it was, it hit him quick. I just can't figure out what went wrong. If it was the glass cleaner that got into the tank, it seems like I would have been able to save him, as it couldn't have been that much .... I just don't know. But it would make me feel better if I could figure it out, if nothing else, than for future reference.
That's the downside to keeping puffers, you get so attached to them, and in a short time something can happen to snatch them away from you.
That's the downside to keeping puffers, you get so attached to them, and in a short time something can happen to snatch them away from you.
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Re: Worried About Uno
sorry about the puff thing is you might not have ever been able to help him no matter what you did. do you know how he lost his eye? if not theres probably countless things that could have happened and no telling what other damage was done inside of him when he went through whatever it was that messed his eye up
if your going to keep it as brackish and plan on getting something for the tank soon since the filter is matured, make sure you put some sort of ammonia source to keep the BB going. why not keep the brackish going and get another GSP and acclimate him up over a couple hours? was this your only GSP?
thing is you might not have ever been able to help him no matter what you did. do you know how he lost his eye? if not theres probably countless things that could have happened and no telling what other damage was done inside of him when he went through whatever it was that messed his eye upif your going to keep it as brackish and plan on getting something for the tank soon since the filter is matured, make sure you put some sort of ammonia source to keep the BB going. why not keep the brackish going and get another GSP and acclimate him up over a couple hours? was this your only GSP?
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Re: Worried About Uno
Sorry he didn't make it 
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Re: Worried About Uno
Poor Uno! Usually, when they start the "death roll", they rarely come back from that but there was recently someone's puffer who did & I was really surprised. Remember, no matter what you do with this tank (FW or BW), you must continue to feed the bacteria in there, to keep it alive.
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Re: Worried About Uno
Oh, that sucks, I'm so sorry you lost him
Being the nervous Nelly that I am, if it was me, I'd clean out the whole tank, sterilize what I could, and toss out what I couldn't. That way, I could be sure that if whatever got Uno was contagious, it wouldn't get the next guy. Especially since it's a piece of cake cycling when you have other tanks going
Being the nervous Nelly that I am, if it was me, I'd clean out the whole tank, sterilize what I could, and toss out what I couldn't. That way, I could be sure that if whatever got Uno was contagious, it wouldn't get the next guy. Especially since it's a piece of cake cycling when you have other tanks going
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Re: Worried About Uno
I'd do the same thing as Carmen. Better safe than sorry and that way you know you'll have eliminated whatever got him.
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Re: Worried About Uno
Pufferpunk wrote:Poor Uno! Usually, when they start the "death roll", they rarely come back from that but there was recently someone's puffer who did & I was really surprised. Remember, no matter what you do with this tank (FW or BW), you must continue to feed the bacteria in there, to keep it alive.
Yeah, I sort of had that feeling when he was rolling last night that he wasn't going to last long, but darn, I felt so helpless and just wished there was something I could have done for him.
I felt so good about saving him after his eye was taken (the story was that the puffer was kept in freshwater not brackish - and that's what the woman said caused the eye to go, but we found out through talking to her that her son also had some sort of marine eel in the tank with Uno, and I say that eel took the eye out. Funny how it healed up quickly once I got him and started Melafix, even though she claimed the injury wasn't fresh), it's just a shame I couldn't give him a longer life.
Anyway, I'm not certain what I'm going to do with that tank for right now, but I will keep feeding the bacteria just in case I decide to get another. Uno wasn't my only GSP, I've got 2 others living with my Ceylons, and I am not going to remove them (they are growing like weeds), so I will think about what I want to get to put in Uno's tank.
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Re: Worried About Uno
Sorry to hear about Uno
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Re: Worried About Uno
i should have noticed the list and the "4x T nigroviridis" written in there lolpufferpuggirl wrote: Uno wasn't my only GSP, I've got 2 others living with my Ceylons, and I am not going to remove them (they are growing like weeds), so I will think about what I want to get to put in Uno's tank.
Re: Worried About Uno
sorry to hear that suzanne ,i'm sure you did your best for him but you can't save them all, at least you gave him a good chance not many people would have taken on a puffer with one eye ,sometimes fish do just die and it's not always because of something we have done
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Re: Worried About Uno
Thanks everyone for your kind words and understanding. 
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Re: Worried About Uno
that is so sad. Sorry for the late reply. I don't know what to say. Sorry for your loss. I know you did your best
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Re: Worried About Uno
sorry to hear about uno passing
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Re: Worried About Uno
Well unfortunately this is the downside to keeping puffers. We think we know a lot about them, but in reality I think we know very little. I would have done anything to help Uno, but I honestly didn't know what to do. The tank is stable now, so I suppose it's quite possible that over-spray from the glass cleaner got into the tank and maybe Uno got a bit much of it and that's what pushed him over the edge, I don't know. 
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Re: Worried About Uno
One thing I would like to point out/ask is. How large is he? 1.010 salinity is proper for a 1 1/2 inch puffer or so. When hes an adult he should be in 1.020/1.022
Good luck and I hope he makes it through this. Any amount of ammonia and nitrite can harm them. I had a small ammonia spike of .25 in my 45g and lost 5 platys within a 24 hour period. Weakened fish+ammonia=death.
Good luck and I hope he makes it through this. Any amount of ammonia and nitrite can harm them. I had a small ammonia spike of .25 in my 45g and lost 5 platys within a 24 hour period. Weakened fish+ammonia=death.