Advice Needed Urgently
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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edmlfc1
- Mbu Puffer
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125G:Fahaka (Annabelle) - Location (country): U.S.A.
- Location: Texas
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Have you tried treating her for a bacteria infection? At this point I don't think it would hurt and it might actually help.
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flash.dan
- Green Spotted Puffer
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currently have 1x mbu
Bubba 17" gentle giant... loves a belly tickle.
2x Suvatti Pair
1x Carinotetraodon borneensis - Location: Coventry, UK
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
she is on her last legs now but no other fish are showing illness and currently there are stingrays and clown loaches im sure if there was a outbreak of nasty bacteria they would show symptoms also
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matt748
- Puffer Fry
- Posts: 28
- Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:26 am
- My Puffers: MBU PUFFER
- Location: Essex, UK!
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
I am so sorry to hear about this situation and i know that you obvoiously love your puffer.
Have you considered Euthinasia for the poor thing? Is it suffering though? I don't know but i seems to be going on for some time and it may just put you both out of your misery.
Didn't mean to come accross horrible but am thinking of you both mate.
Have you considered Euthinasia for the poor thing? Is it suffering though? I don't know but i seems to be going on for some time and it may just put you both out of your misery.
Didn't mean to come accross horrible but am thinking of you both mate.
MBU PUFFER, 2 x Figure 8 Puffers.
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flash.dan
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:50 am
- My Puffers: 8 years of FW puffer care!
currently have 1x mbu
Bubba 17" gentle giant... loves a belly tickle.
2x Suvatti Pair
1x Carinotetraodon borneensis - Location: Coventry, UK
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
matt748 wrote:I am so sorry to hear about this situation and i know that you obvoiously love your puffer.
Have you considered Euthinasia for the poor thing? Is it suffering though? I don't know but i seems to be going on for some time and it may just put you both out of your misery.
Didn't mean to come accross horrible but am thinking of you both mate.
i have considered it shes not allert atall but she isnt stressed or thrashing so in the meantime im leaving her alone. itsa horrible situation yesterday a guy from a lfs came over he is of the opinion she has a tumor which would explain the blood in her eyes balance and such a sudden fall from health. the other fish in her tank are perfect condition its a crying shame though
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recombinantrider
- Green Spotted Puffer
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- My Puffers: Tetraodon nigroviridis (GSP)
Takifugu ocellatus (Fugu puffer) - Location: Los Angeles
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
I am so sad about this 
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flash.dan
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:50 am
- My Puffers: 8 years of FW puffer care!
currently have 1x mbu
Bubba 17" gentle giant... loves a belly tickle.
2x Suvatti Pair
1x Carinotetraodon borneensis - Location: Coventry, UK
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
she passed away this morning in my hands. a healthy 13" im so so upset. looking at her teeth they were split in two places she has had one hell of a bump. thought i would let you guys know
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Ohhh so sorry to hear of your loss, we do understand they are our pets . You gave her a great life and did take the best care of her.
. You gave her a great life and did take the best care of her.-
Jase
- Mbu Puffer
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- My Puffers: RIP Hootey :(
- Location (country): USA
- Location: Montana
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
I'm very sorry for your loss
RIP Cutie Pie
RIP Cutie Pie
-Jase
edmlfc1 wrote:A house without a puffer is not a home.
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lilgirlkat
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 253
- Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 1:38 am
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
awww RIP, little (or not so little) one.
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edmlfc1
- Mbu Puffer
- Posts: 2011
- Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:03 pm
- My Puffers: Elvis (Stars & Stripes) R.I.P. 9/11/11
125G:Fahaka (Annabelle) - Location (country): U.S.A.
- Location: Texas
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
I'm so sorry to hear that.Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
What to feed your puffer? Click on Feeding......
Feeding: library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
Have a GSP, need more information......Click on GSP Article.....
GSP Article: library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
What to feed your puffer? Click on Feeding......
Feeding: library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/
Have a GSP, need more information......Click on GSP Article.....
GSP Article: library/puffers-in-focus/an-introductio ... d-puffers/
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lilacamy931
- Fahaka Puffer
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- My Puffers: 200 litre - waiting for a schoutedeni
- Location (country): UK
- Location: Bournemouth
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Oh Dan - really sorry to hear your loss, lots of hugs xxx
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marksrush
- Fahaka Puffer
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- Location (country): USA
- Location: Raymore, Missouri USA
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Very very sorry it turned out this way, Dan. I kept hoping as I was reading the thread that it would all turn out fine, so it was very saddening to hear she passed.
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flash.dan
- Green Spotted Puffer
- Posts: 433
- Joined: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:50 am
- My Puffers: 8 years of FW puffer care!
currently have 1x mbu
Bubba 17" gentle giant... loves a belly tickle.
2x Suvatti Pair
1x Carinotetraodon borneensis - Location: Coventry, UK
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
she was practically blind towards the end with fluid in her eyes. once she was gone i had a good look in her mouth her teeth were broke to hell i have never seen her freak but she must of at some point. she went peacefully enough she did thrash her tail a bit as soon as i held her she calmed down i usto stoke her a lot so she knew it was me and then she was gone. was like she was waiting for me before she went this morning. was a long long drive to work today mind.
anyway i have decided. i only recently purchased a 8x3x3 which she was going into in the summer. the 6x2 she is in now is going to be converted into a central sump which ill run my 8x4 / new 8x3 off and ill get another mbu later tjhis year / next. Ill use the space now to split my trimacs (flowerhorns) and jags up and pair some off. might even allow my acaras to breed the male (in my sig) is lovely so hell have good fry.
im still going to thin out my stock otherwise it will be a nightmare making a central system and drilling those big tanks having to move lots of stock. chin up ey.
Thanks for your warm messages guys. im going to make a montage of her from 1.5" - now. ill probably post it here in a few days. i still have bubz mind but he is so so lazy in his old age. he doesnt welcome me like she did every night well unless he wanted something haha
anyway i have decided. i only recently purchased a 8x3x3 which she was going into in the summer. the 6x2 she is in now is going to be converted into a central sump which ill run my 8x4 / new 8x3 off and ill get another mbu later tjhis year / next. Ill use the space now to split my trimacs (flowerhorns) and jags up and pair some off. might even allow my acaras to breed the male (in my sig) is lovely so hell have good fry.
im still going to thin out my stock otherwise it will be a nightmare making a central system and drilling those big tanks having to move lots of stock. chin up ey.
Thanks for your warm messages guys. im going to make a montage of her from 1.5" - now. ill probably post it here in a few days. i still have bubz mind but he is so so lazy in his old age. he doesnt welcome me like she did every night well unless he wanted something haha
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LilGreenPuffer
- Former Staff Member
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- Location: Kentucky
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
I'm sorry to hear about Cutie Pie, but I'm SO GLAD you're not quitting! You might contact lilgirlkat about her mbu - she wants to find another home for it in a year or so.
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matt748
- Puffer Fry
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- Location: Essex, UK!
Re: Advice Needed Urgently
Really sorry to hear about your loss mate.
Are you staying with the fish keeping now.? Saw an add you posted on Aquarist classifieds selling your fish. Hope you have decided to stick with it despite everything.
All the best
Are you staying with the fish keeping now.? Saw an add you posted on Aquarist classifieds selling your fish. Hope you have decided to stick with it despite everything.
All the best
MBU PUFFER, 2 x Figure 8 Puffers.