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Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:50 am
by t1gerbee
is your water definitely at 1.009? Know your using a refractometer so should be accurate.. but can you check it somewhere...

cists 'should' explode at 1.009 ...

maybe it's not ich? although god knows what else it could be....

he need some kind of food.. i'm really surprised he's not got a concave belly by now, having not eaten in a few days.

Did you find out if/what he was eating at the LFS?

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:58 am
by Agnate
I didn't. I'll have to call tonight if I remember. I'm also really confused as to why he doesn't have a sunken stomach. He's been pooping, too, but there's absolutely nothing in the tank he could possible eat...

He looked kinda "jiggly" when water was pushing past him (when he was near the filter output), so I thought he might have air in him (thus making him appear not to have a sunken stomach). However, he sits on the bottom of the tank without moving any fins, so I'm guess if he had air in him, he would be floating to the top more?

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:29 am
by t1gerbee
my porc sat under a rock for three weeks ... didn't swim. Every day i thought he would die.. but he didn't.

He was eating though and would swim to eat, then go and sit down again... so.... not much help.

One thing, my porc was active/more active at night.. have you looked at night/when the lights are off?

If he's pooed recently, he MUST have eaten recently.. it's biology!

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:34 pm
by Agnate
Yeah, I'm guessing he ate something at the LFS, I'll have to call and figure out what. Then again, he was also a bit more active at the store, so I've probably ruined his appetite with all this hypo treatment and water changes. :P

I think he was only there for a few days, though, so yeah.

I have been keeping the lights off and just have the room light turned on (as the tank is in my office anyways), plus the sunlight keeps the house kinda bright during the day, so there's no real need for lights if it's going to stress him out.

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:06 pm
by Pufferpunk
Are you sure it's ich (crypt) & not velvet?

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:50 pm
by Agnate
Uhh, I don't know... what's velvet look like?...

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:57 pm
by Agnate
Well, from what I've read, it's not marine velvet. He has visible white spots (lots of them) all over his fins and skin. From what I read of marine velvet, a lot of it is "dusting" and whatnot and resembles velvet (hence the name), but this looks like full circle dots that are all about the same size (maybe the size of larger sugar grains?).

I'd say I'll take a picture, but I don't have a camera that works. :P

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:44 pm
by Pufferpunk
Yeah, it would help if it was working--can't take a good pic with a broken one. :P

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:14 pm
by Agnate
Or a crappy one. :P

Anyone have good pictures of marine velvet that I can compare it to?

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:31 pm
by edmlfc1
Try this link, scroll down until you see the porc picture. This is what it looks like imo. White spots and starts to discolor. I could be wrong. :?
http://wetwebmedia.com/pufferdisfaq2.htm

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:36 pm
by edmlfc1
Here's another link that came to mind.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5290&p=56557&hilit= ... vet#p56557

Re: Porc Puffer with Marine Ich - Poor Fella

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:29 pm
by Agnate
Unfortunately, there was a very bad mishap, and the poor guy was sucked into my python in the 3 seconds it took for me to turn on the tap and sprint to the tank.

He puffed up, and it cut open a 1 inch gash from under his eye all the way to his gill. There was nothing I could do to help him (couldn't even sew it, as it was split so close to his eye and gill), and at his already-weak state, there was nothing I could do.

I'm currently in the process of euthanizing with clove oil, and then with white-grain alcohol after he is asleep. I feel horrible, but these things happen sometimes. It's just sad to see his happen while I'm trying to heal him, and to happen to such a little trooper.

You will be missed, little friend.

:(

Re: Goodbye, my little friend...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:36 pm
by edmlfc1
:( That is soooooo sad. I'm so sorry. I sucked a fish in the python before also. It happened so fast, I know how you feel.

Re: Goodbye, my little friend...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:54 pm
by dab335
Im so sorry, I lost my puffer a few weeks ago to marine velvet, and I know how bad u feel :(

Re: Goodbye, my little friend...

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:18 pm
by julianchan
Oh no.... :(

Well, he had someone looking after him as well as possible.