Annabelle IP's (From Tapeworms to Camallanus worms)
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
^ I think that means sent wrong or somethin...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Actually they sent it to the wrong city, zip. Not the guy that shipped it, he sent it to the correct address. The post office buffed this up.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
That was an interesting article. Everything I had read or heard didn't mention Saltwater fish being susceptible.
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Excatly! That's why I'm so freaked now.Dadof4 wrote:That was an interesting article. Everything I had read or heard didn't mention Saltwater fish being susceptible.
I even asked if my saltwater fish could catch this and I was told no. The article implies different.Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
I'm curious to the mode of reproduction now. Is this proglottid spread? If so, that must be one tough outer shell because if it wasn't they'd have osmotic lysis and die off when they hit the high SG! Now you got me curious and I may have to go hit the medical research library at work..... 
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Please do. Then you can do all the research and tell me all about it "in english". 
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Don't believe everything you read.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
I was visiting another fish keeper today, and she had a med that is supposed to cure those nasty worms Annabelle has: Sera Nematol. I'm sorry if this has been posted before in this topic. I have a bad memory...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
I haven't seen that one. Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully her meds will be here today or tomorrow.Troender wrote:I was visiting another fish keeper today, and she had a med that is supposed to cure those nasty worms Annabelle has: Sera Nematol. I'm sorry if this has been posted before in this topic. I have a bad memory...
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
I just got information from the other fish keeper (she is reading this thread, but she isn't a member here, so she can't post) that Nematol can be dangerous for scaleless fishes, so I guess you will have to skip that one. But it's nice to know that it's out there, if any other fish gets infected with those nasty worms.
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
I finally got her meds last night. I was hoping it would come on my day off so that I could keep a close eye on her reaction. I'm thinking about waiting to start treatment on Sunday. I'm scared she might have a bad reaction to it and I want to be home to keep an eye on her just incase something goes wrong.
Want opions:
Should I wait until Sunday? I'll be off for 4 days starting Sunday thru Wed.
Or Should I go ahead with the treatment tonight?
Want opions:
Should I wait until Sunday? I'll be off for 4 days starting Sunday thru Wed.
Or Should I go ahead with the treatment tonight?
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
i would wait until you can be there Lissa....no sense risking her life at this point...you've been thru too much for such a small waiting time......besides....she's doing well so far.....don't temp fate.....be there with her ......
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
I've linked to this topic on a Norwegian forum, for people to learn from what Annabelle has been going through. They are really impressed with your care! One person gave me a link for using the med you are going to try on her. Here it is. The good part is that this has been used on loaches, which are scaleless like puffers.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Annabelle! And so are many Norwegian non-puffer-owners (the person giving me the link, has a suvattii though)! Your puffer is getting famous for her IP attacks!
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Annabelle! And so are many Norwegian non-puffer-owners (the person giving me the link, has a suvattii though)! Your puffer is getting famous for her IP attacks!
Inger Anne
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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?
Thanks Troender, that was one of the first links about the meds that I read. I actually got in contact with the guy that wrote the article about the worms. He's been very helpful. Turns out he's the same guy I ordered the meds from. It didn't snap that he was the same person until I went to email him about his article to get more information on how the worms or if the worms would effect saltwater fish also. He told me that it was two different species and I didn't have to worry about my sw tank catching them. I'm relieved about that. I just have to treat the two fw tanks. One is a community tank and the other is Annabelle's tank. I'm still talking with the guy through email, I'll keep everyone posted.
It didn't snap that he was the same person until I went to email him about his article to get more information on how the worms or if the worms would effect saltwater fish also. He told me that it was two different species and I didn't have to worry about my sw tank catching them. I'm relieved about that. I just have to treat the two fw tanks. One is a community tank and the other is Annabelle's tank. I'm still talking with the guy through email, I'll keep everyone posted.Need to know what kind of puffer you have? Click on Puffer ID.....Puffer ID: ug.php/v/PufferPedia/
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