The Puffer Forum

That is true. The trachys can touch each other but I'd give about 3" between them & other corals. I've had corals fall onto a lobo & killed in minutes.

If you have any questions about who is more aggressive, I have a pretty good idea.

http://www.reefs.org/library/talklog/g_ ... 42797.html

Pufferpunk wrote:That is true. The trachys can touch each other but I'd give about 3" between them & other corals. I've had corals fall onto a lobo & killed in minutes.

If you have any questions about who is more aggressive, I have a pretty good idea.

http://www.reefs.org/library/talklog/g_ ... 42797.html

Thanks.

Now the lobo is by itself on the right side of the tank and the two trachys are close to one another on the left side. The lobo seemed happy last night as it inflated the best it had in a couple days. The Trachyphyllia geoffroyi did not inflate last night that I saw for the first time in a few days. I hoping it is just because I moved it and not because of the location itself, I'll wait a few days before I move it again. The Trachyphyllia radiata was inflated last night and today. It has inflated and extended its feeders every day since I added it to my tank. Its a pretty good size, especially compared to the other brain corals. Hope it continues to do well.

I ordered the Vitamin C.


Heres a few pictures.

Wellso



This picture kinda gives an idea to its size, the wrasse is at least 4 inches I'd say and in front of the wellso.


Few photos of my puffer, decided to venture out a little more.















I'm waiting on clams on half shell and mussel from my LFS to come in. So far I've fed the tank mysis and squid and he's definitely went after a few pieces. Not as aggressive with the food yet as I expected. Though I'm sure he's still getting used to his surroundings.

When I looked into puffers, feeding included, I looked mainly at GSPs as thats was the puffer I had intended to get. For the GSP I expected to get a baby of about 1inch-1 1/2inches and to feed daily (fasting one day) until the belly was rounded. Instead I've got the Toby that is 2 1/2-3 inches. I had been feeding every 2-3 days with my other stock, is this often enough for the puffer?

Also, he hasn't ate enough at a time for me to tell any noticeable difference in his belly. Is this something I need to be looking at with his size still? Does he look okay in terms of weight in the pictures? Just a little worried is all and want to make sure he is getting enough to eat.

Can't you get clams/mussels from the grocery store?

That rainbow wellso is gorgeous! How much?

Pufferpunk wrote:Can't you get clams/mussels from the grocery store?

That rainbow wellso is gorgeous! How much?

I have to see what I can get at the grocery store. I was hoping for at least shrimp and don't think that will be a problem. There is only one grocery store in my area that may have more of a selection when it comes to seafood, the others are smaller and don't have much of a selection of anything. I have to say I've never paid much attention to what all the one store does offer cause I'm not one that cares much for seafood so have never had the need to look.

Thank you! I'm very happy with its colors and size. Its been doing well I believe, to the best of my knowledge, since it was first put in the tank. It stays inflated more than the other trachy and lobo, it also ate pretty well the night I noticed feeders and tried to feed. I paid $85 for mine. I compared prices on other sites and couldn't fine as good of a price for that size so believe I go a good deal.

That one wasn't actually labeled as a rainbow. It had 'ultra' in the name, whatever that means. They had one that was labeled as rainbow, now it is gorgeous, but it was more than I was willing to pay for one coral, especially just beginning. One day I think I'll spurge on an open brain that I really really want.

This is the one they had labeled as rainbow for $140


They still have it and I want it sooo badly. I keep telling myself I can't spend that much on one coral yet for a number of reasons.

Does that one have 2 mouths? I have paid as much as $250 for ultra rainbows.

Corals are so expensive. I am in the middle of my planning on my own coral garden, frags only to start. Its a sellers market

Pufferpunk wrote:Does that one have 2 mouths? I have paid as much as $250 for ultra rainbows.

I'm not sure which you're talking about, I'm assuming the rainbow though, but mine has 3 I believe. Going by the looks of mine and that one (on the WYSWYG photos from that store), I'd say that one has 2. Thats the only photo of that rainbow though.

Edit: I thought I saw 3, I forgot I had even taken this photo



I love that one though. The store I got the wellso from is the same one I got the coral order just before (trachy, lobo, hammer, zoas, blastos).

If my tank was better established, I was more experienced, and I didn't know at the time I was adding a fish (puffer) that could pick at the corals then I would have purchased the rainbow over my ultra. I really do like mine but I'd really like that one as well.

Edit: This is the WYSIWYG photo of mine, little better photo than I can get, because of camera and lighting I'm sure.

defool89 wrote:Corals are so expensive. I am in the middle of my planning on my own coral garden, frags only to start. Its a sellers market

Ugh, yes some of them really are. I hadn't paid much for my first few which were just softies; leather, ricordia, mushrooms, and zoas. I didn't start spending a decent amount on individual corals until I got LPS for the first time, which wasn't too long ago. I've had two separated purchases that have contained mostly LPS and from the same store. The first order the trachy was my most expensive at $40, I couldn't believe I really paid that much and then I went and paid over double that for the wellso Seems I got a good price though, I just would have never thought back when I first started this tank I was going to have corals much less spend what I have.

My goodness that puffer has really "perked" up. She is one seriously colorful and pretty fish

*GSP*Fan* wrote:
Ugh, yes some of them really are. I hadn't paid much for my first few which were just softies; leather, ricordia, mushrooms, and zoas. I didn't start spending a decent amount on individual corals until I got LPS for the first time, which wasn't too long ago. I've had two separated purchases that have contained mostly LPS and from the same store. The first order the trachy was my most expensive at $40, I couldn't believe I really paid that much and then I went and paid over double that for the wellso Seems I got a good price though, I just would have never thought back when I first started this tank I was going to have corals much less spend what I have.

I am sorry to inform you of this, but I believe you are developing a coral addiction. You have all the classic symptoms. Unfortunately, I do not know of a cure for this disorder.

Don't feel bad though. This addiction is common among those who start sw tanks. Sadly, your prognosis is unfortunate indeed. Once this tank is full of corals you are likely to start another sw tank.

I have lots of corals FS. When it get's warmer, I can ship anywhere.

I've always wondered, if you feed 1 mouth, does that feed the entire creature or do you need to feed all 3? Why else would it have 3 mouths? BTW, you can frag these things, as long as each frag has a mouth. Not that you'd want to...

Pufferpunk wrote:I have lots of corals FS. When it get's warmer, I can ship anywhere.

I've always wondered, if you feed 1 mouth, does that feed the entire creature or do you need to feed all 3? Why else would it have 3 mouths? BTW, you can frag these things, as long as each frag has a mouth. Not that you'd want to...

evolution...or mutation? either way very cool, but if its one animal, then one mouth should suffice no? Maybe it just increases its chances of survival by having multiple mouths to catch food from multiple sides.

Someone needs to take two different corals with multiple mouths in a small hospital tank and feed one strictly through one mouth, and the other through all mouths and post the results here. I will pay in wampum

Just got this in email: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf4YdgR7 ... e8782cb656

purplecandle wrote:My goodness that puffer has really "perked" up. She is one seriously colorful and pretty fish

*GSP*Fan* wrote:
Ugh, yes some of them really are. I hadn't paid much for my first few which were just softies; leather, ricordia, mushrooms, and zoas. I didn't start spending a decent amount on individual corals until I got LPS for the first time, which wasn't too long ago. I've had two separated purchases that have contained mostly LPS and from the same store. The first order the trachy was my most expensive at $40, I couldn't believe I really paid that much and then I went and paid over double that for the wellso Seems I got a good price though, I just would have never thought back when I first started this tank I was going to have corals much less spend what I have.

I am sorry to inform you of this, but I believe you are developing a coral addiction. You have all the classic symptoms. Unfortunately, I do not know of a cure for this disorder.

Don't feel bad though. This addiction is common among those who start sw tanks. Sadly, your prognosis is unfortunate indeed. Once this tank is full of corals you are likely to start another sw tank.

Thank you! She is out swimming around the rockwork most of the time now.

Very well said

I'd say there is a good chance that there will be another saltwater tank in the future. I already plan to set up a smaller tank for the corals if needed, if the puffer decides to sample/eat any corals. I haven't witnessed it yet but who knows. I've also thought about upgrading because I had found a pretty good deal on a 90 gallon. I hope to move though sometime this year and get into my own house if possible. Because of that I want to *try* to put off any more tanks or upgrades for a bit.

Pufferpunk wrote:I have lots of corals FS. When it get's warmer, I can ship anywhere.

I've always wondered, if you feed 1 mouth, does that feed the entire creature or do you need to feed all 3? Why else would it have 3 mouths? BTW, you can frag these things, as long as each frag has a mouth. Not that you'd want to...

I remember you mentioning something about selling corals. Do you have a site or anything or just sell locally and like through forms like this and such? I'm sure I'll be adding more corals. I wish I had more space on the sand bed as I really like the brain corals and a few similar that need to be on the sand.

I don't know about that, not something I've looked into. When I fed the wellso I fed at least two of the heads. I do remember coming across something regarding feeding corals that have multiple heads. I wish I could remember the specific corals that were mentioned but it was said that it depended on specific coral and their like body structure. That some are one organism, even with multiples mouths, and that the food would be shared while with others, when the individual heads come into play, are more like individual organisms making up one large and the food isn't as readily shared in this case. I wish I remember where I had read that and had made more attention but I believe I got the gist of it.

I'm sure I'll have to frag at some point, a ways down the road, but fragging kinda scares me. I thought it might be something I did more when I had to not just because. I may change my outlook on that at some point.

defool89 wrote:

Pufferpunk wrote:I have lots of corals FS. When it get's warmer, I can ship anywhere.

I've always wondered, if you feed 1 mouth, does that feed the entire creature or do you need to feed all 3? Why else would it have 3 mouths? BTW, you can frag these things, as long as each frag has a mouth. Not that you'd want to...

evolution...or mutation? either way very cool, but if its one animal, then one mouth should suffice no? Maybe it just increases its chances of survival by having multiple mouths to catch food from multiple sides.

Someone needs to take two different corals with multiple mouths in a small hospital tank and feed one strictly through one mouth, and the other through all mouths and post the results here. I will pay in wampum

That makes sense. I can definitely see how that could beneficial and be at least one of the reasons for multiple mouths on something like coral.

I'm glad I don't have multiple mouths!

Something is still going on with some of my corals since that water change.

The ricordias still have not opened but the rhodactis mushrooms have opened up just like that used to. The zoas have opened back up as well and it still appears that the leather is shedding. As mentioned, all brain corals are doing good the best I can tell, all were inflated last night and I believe all had their feeders out as well.

I'm definitely worried about the ricordia but even more so the hammer. It hasn't been the same since after that water change. The next day I could see white on one of the branches and the polyps falling away and now are all gone. The others are opening up but not to their fullest. I did move it up higher in the tank just in case this was an issues so that could be why it isn't opening quite as much too. I just can't figure out what is doing it. My package from Dr. Fosters and Smith will be there when I get home from work and I'll be able to check the alk, mag, and cal levels. I have done a water change at least once a week lately so I don't see how the levels would be that low, plus the other LPS aren't being affected. I don't know if it could possibly some type of parasite hitchhiker or maybe the flow was too much. I ordered some Lugols solution for a dip that should been here soon, just in case. I really hate to loose this hammer.

Here are the before pictures:



And after


I want to say its probably something that happened because of my inexperience, which is unfortunate, but I just want to know what it is. I'm just so puzzled that the brains are doing so well and that the ricordia haven't opened back up, really like those as well.

Pufferpunk wrote:I'm glad I don't have multiple mouths!

Me too, one is plenty!

Its kinda neat when it comes to the corals though, I really like that shot I got of the wellso and its mouths open.

No direct flow at it?