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Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:44 am
by recombinantrider
It's time for the hamster worms to leave Annabelle alone! :soapbox:
I hope he can give you some positive advice. Keep us in the loop!

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:26 am
by fishlady1958
i simply refuse to believe that she's come this far and it's down hill now.....nope..won't do it....can't do it....
ANNABELLE....LISTEN TO ME....YOUR THE MOST BRAVEST PUFF I'VE EVER SEEN....YOU CAN WHIP THIS GIRLFRIEND...I KNOW YOU CAN....

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:35 am
by Troender
Ugh! That was not a pretty sight. After searching a little, I found these two threads at plecofanatics:
http://www.plecofanatics.com/forum/show ... hp?t=15580
http://www.plecofanatics.com/forum/show ... t=red+worm

A fish med dealer suggest these meds as a cure "Treat with: Paracide-D in the food and De-Los in the water." I have no idea whether they are available except from a vet in the US. They are certainly not available around here.

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:15 am
by edmlfc1
Jase wrote:what'd they say in chat?
By the time I was able to get into the chat room, he wasn't there. I sent him a pm so that we can try this again this morning or tonight. I'm about to go check my pm's now. I'll keep you posted if I hear any news.

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:48 am
by edmlfc1
Guy's and Gal's, this does not sound good for my baby! :( I'm soooo upset! I just start crying when I read it. :( I'm going to the Vet's office to see if any of this is available as soon as they open. I don't know what else to do. I sent a pm to Nick also, with a copy of this to see what he thinks. I promised I would keep you updated so I also posted it here. I'll let you know if I can get the meds from the vet.

This is the message he sent me:
Camallanus worms are not very easy to destroy. I've gathered several information and reference files and praziquantel and metronidazole don't prove lethal for camallanus. The only meds that will truly destroy the worms are levamisole hydrochloride, fenbendazole, flubenol or flubendazole. The trouble with levamisole is it is old fashioned (though nevertheless effective) so not many people hear about this med's existence. Try the vets if they have it. It is used for livestocks but is effective with fish as well. I tried it before and the fish won't eat for a few days. Dose by 2mg per liter. You have to anticipate their refusal to eat due to te side effects by levamisole. Second treatment can be done 3 days later but do a large water change first. Third treatment is done in a week. The last one should be on another week. That med is powerful and can kill plenty of internal parasites though it is recorded not to kill planaria and some other pests (other than internal parasites).

If your fish refuses to eat medicated foods, put Kent's liquid garlic on it. Three drops will do it. Don't add more as the scent is overpowering and can confuse the fish.

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:17 am
by fishlady1958
that doesn't sound good...but i still refuse to believe that she doesn't have a chance....she's been such a trooper all this time.....
let me know what you find with the vet....i'll help you look around at all the local vets near me as well if you need it...we'll find the medicine for her...

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:29 am
by edmlfc1
I found the aquatic vet from Austin Tx. that tried to help me save Selena. I sent him an email about Annabelle. He was really good at getting back to me when Selena was sick. I hope to hear from him today. I'll let you know what happens.

Fishlady, When Selena was ill, I tried to find an Aquatic Vet in the houston area and had no luck. If you have any luck finding one please let me know. I'll pm you my cell number so that you can call me if you do.

Thanks

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:43 am
by fishlady1958
i'm looking as we type......

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:31 am
by Dadof4
levamisole hydrochloride is used as a cattle, pig and sheep de-wormer. You may want to try feed and livestock stores to try to find a form of it. A lot of the cattle ones are water soluble and possibly safe for fish. You just need to check it's inactive ingredients. If Texas regulates the stuff I can see if I can find it here and overnight it. I have a good friend that is a Vet and he may be able to come up with it too.

I'm sorry this is happening, this really stinks.

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:06 am
by edmlfc1
Fishlady found me a vet that's not too far away. I just got off the phone with the office. The doctor's not in today but will be back tomorrow. I emailed all the pictures of Annabelle, her diary that I have been keeping on her, the information I found online, and the response I received from the guy that wrote the article. She's going to give it to the vet in the morning for her to look it over and give me a call.

The vet's office just called me. They got my emails and just wanted to let me know. I have to say that I am a basket case right now! :( I'll update with any news tomorrow.

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:19 am
by Christemo
*gentle, fishie hugs for Annabelle*

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:43 am
by LilGreenPuffer
COME ON, EDMLFC1 AND ANNABELLE! YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!!

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:00 pm
by fishlady1958
i am a strong believer in karma......
and i honestly believe that Annabelle has good Karma around the corner....and i will most certainly be there for her and her human....we'll get her well if we have to take her to the ends of the earth......Lissa.....you know that you are my hero....and i think that you are amazing..and that all your babies are very very fortunate to have you as their human....
WE WILL GET THRU THIS TOGETHER!!!!!!!
i mean wow....we not only have u and i we have a whole plethra of people across the nations rooting for Annabelle....
that's gotta be a good thing.......

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:05 pm
by edmlfc1
This is going to be the longest 24 hours of my life. :(

Re: Annabelle IP's (Update) Again? R U Kidding me?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:09 pm
by edmlfc1
I did find this online:
http://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html ... 6580,16572

I think it's the medication that he suggested. After reading a few of the forums I finally found the name it actually goes under in the states (Levasole). I'm waiting to hear from the vet before I order anything.

Btw: Thanks Dadof4 for sending me that article it helped me find more information on her condition. :lol: