Mbu puffer
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Boxermom
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Re: Mbu puffer
I've never heard of them excreting anything, except occasionally poop, upon death. And it wouldn't be an issue if you've done a huge water change, that should have removed most, if not all, of anything it may have excreted.
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Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
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manutius
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Re: Mbu puffer
No puffers do not excrete toxins and it generally beleived that captive puffers are non toxic. They build up toxicity in the wild from eating food that contain bacteria that they can store in the liver and skin tissue. As captive puffers are fed "clean" food if you will, they are not poisnonus, definately not after 4 years.
Did the cloudiness come about after cleaning the filters, did you use tap water? Using tap water will kill the bacteria in the filter, its best to clean in a bucket of tank water.
It is most likely a bacterial bloom and it could take a number of days to clear, try adding some flake food to the tank to give the bacteria something to feed on
Did the cloudiness come about after cleaning the filters, did you use tap water? Using tap water will kill the bacteria in the filter, its best to clean in a bucket of tank water.
It is most likely a bacterial bloom and it could take a number of days to clear, try adding some flake food to the tank to give the bacteria something to feed on
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Pufferpunk
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Re: Mbu puffer
How much Epsom salt did you add to what size tank? I really wish you had answered ALLthe questions when I asked you to.
What size tank? What kind of knife fish--how large?
In all my years of adding Epsom salt--if used properly, it will not cause death, ot tank crash.
Sorry for your loss...
What size tank? What kind of knife fish--how large?
In all my years of adding Epsom salt--if used properly, it will not cause death, ot tank crash.
Sorry for your loss...
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Mbu puffer
i did answer most ofthe questions? i was in a proper panic when on here whe it was all ging on!Pufferpunk wrote:How much Epsom salt did you add to what size tank? I really wish you had answered ALLthe questions when I asked you to.
What size tank? What kind of knife fish--how large?
In all my years of adding Epsom salt--if used properly, it will not cause death, ot tank crash.
Sorry for your loss...
3 level table spoons, 5ftf tank just under 400litres, knife ish was black with a white band round the end of tail,was about 6 inches long.
not saying that it was the salt that done it, he wasnt well anyway and hadent been for about 3 weeks,that waqs not by choice either i was away on holiday,had people feding them but they wouldnt of known how to treat for me while i was away.
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Pufferpunk
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Re: Mbu puffer
You never really posted tank size or inhabitants. That was important. I understand you were in a panic but we ask all those Qs for a very specific reason & w/o all the answers, we really can't put all the puzzle pieces together.
Since your tank is around 100g & you only added 3 tbsp, when it would have been safe to ad as much as 20, I can assure you the Epsom salt wasn't the cause of those deaths. Something is very wrong with the tank. What test kits are you using?
Sounds like a black ghost knife?
Since your tank is around 100g & you only added 3 tbsp, when it would have been safe to ad as much as 20, I can assure you the Epsom salt wasn't the cause of those deaths. Something is very wrong with the tank. What test kits are you using?
Sounds like a black ghost knife?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"