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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:59 am
by Pufferpunk
I am wondering... the Ca was only at 200. Do you think that would have anything to do w/the fact that I couldn't see any teeth at all? I do think that krill would be hard enough to keep a fish's teeth somewhat trimmed, although an occasional crab & other varieties of hard food would be a much better diet. We have seen countless cases of lockjaw on fish that have been fed a diet of strictly krill..

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:18 am
by lisalisa
You think krill would do it? I see very little crunch value in krill.

As for the Ca, that's an interesting thought. I wonder what, if any, effect calcium concentrations have on tetraodon plate growth.

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:54 pm
by Phaedrus
That sounds like a grad studies project lisa.

The effect of calcium concentrations of tetraodon dental plate growth.

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:39 pm
by lisalisa
You're right.

...I"m never getting out of school..
ROFL

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:01 pm
by Phaedrus
once you're in, it's hard to escape... I said I'd be done for a while after these degrees, but I think i'll be writting the LSAT in september... what the heck... I'm not getting any younger, and high priced defense attourney might be the only way to pay off the student loan people...

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:05 pm
by lisalisa
I'm about to start (yet another) undergrad. I think I might need your attourney services to get said student loan people off my back by the time I'm done!
I pay in krill. :twisted:

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:09 pm
by The Fisherman
heh, theres a ton of degrees I want to get... I cant choose just one!!! I enjoy art/graphic design as well as fish keeping. I want to get a degree in icthyology, and then when I go for my masters, speacialize in tetraodontids. at least I think thats how it gos. I would have to dig up the PM that Swell sent me explaining everything.

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:12 pm
by Pufferpunk
John, although that sounds like a fun & interesting career, please pick something that will earn you a good living!

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:35 pm
by Jager
porcs teeth dont grow like other puffers. the diodon species do not have the obvious teeth, theirs are hidden behind their lips more, and are not prone to overgrowth.

however lockjaw they get a ton.

Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:05 pm
by The Fisherman
Pufferpunk wrote:John, although that sounds like a fun & interesting career, please pick something that will earn you a good living!
yeah, your probably right.... I should stick with my graphic design stuff, you practically make a fortune from it. and then I could get more aquariums! :P

10,000 gallon school of Mbu tank here I come! :lol:

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:00 am
by Meander
Pufferpunk wrote:I am wondering... the Ca was only at 200. Do you think that would have anything to do w/the fact that I couldn't see any teeth at all? I do think that krill would be hard enough to keep a fish's teeth somewhat trimmed, although an occasional crab & other varieties of hard food would be a much better diet. We have seen countless cases of lockjaw on fish that have been fed a diet of strictly krill..
My porc bites the live rock and the substrate often - maybe this one does too? Though 200 Ca is pretty bad. As hard as a porc puffer's teeth are, I don't think krill would be hard enough to trim them.

I feed crunchy food to Porky just in case and because he and I both enjoy it but I believe there is truth to Jager's assertion that porcs are not as susceptible to overgrown teeth. I have seen a 12 year old porc who doesn't get crunchy food in a pet shop around here (The Pet Shop on Breton and 28th) and his teeth are not overgrown. But since their natural foods come in crunchy shells, it's surely better to feed crunchies.

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:28 am
by YBeNormal
PP, How is the porc doing now?

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:02 pm
by Pufferpunk
A lil better--still upright. Not swimming much at all. Not feeding it yet. Gonna do some more water tests today (they were on their way there when I called just now). Only doing 10% dailys on the tank. I think they should be doing 25% IMO.

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:23 pm
by YBeNormal
I would try feeding it at least a little! IRT water change %, I would start with 10% and gradually increase with each water change until water parameters were acceptable.

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:35 pm
by OraLacerta
PP: Great job saving this little guy. I can't believe they had filters but didn't run them.
Are they giving you anything for all this work you've been doing?