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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:52 pm
by fatpuffer
Can anybody tell me how long can this species live in brac. condition?


Js

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:44 pm
by perek
fatpuffer wrote:Can anybody tell me how long can this species live in brac. condition?


Js

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:33 pm
by Woland
The only reason I am keeping my specimen in brackish conditions is that Dr. Ebert (author of The puffers of fresh & brackish waters) says it can be done.
He does not specify "how long".

I quote:

Maintaining this species in completely fresh water is not recommended, but on the other hand they can be kept in brackish aquaria for a long time.

In his book there is a small section which is introduced with these words:

The following puffer species are all marine species which enter mangrove swamps and river estuaries as juveniles and spend the first part of their development period there; they are caught in these regions and subsequently sold as freshwater fishes. But in consequense of their marine origins they can be kept only for a very limited period in freshwater or brackish aquaria. It is absolutly essential to transfer them to a marine aquarium later on. When purchasing these puffers it is important to take into account that they all attain a considerable size. Astonishingly it has been found that some of these marine puffers (e.g. Chelonodon patoca and Takifugu oblongus) are much easier to keep in freshwater for long periods than are some brackish-water species.

My own specimen is settling in nicely.
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:54 pm
by Phaedrus
once again, that's a gorgeous puffer.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:00 pm
by perek
How long would it take for a small one to outgrow a 55G tank?

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:23 pm
by Woland
perek wrote:How long would it take for a small one to outgrow a 55G tank?
I have no idea...
The real question is whether it is any chance of one being able to invest in a 300 gallon marine tank within a few years time...

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:54 pm
by perek
Woland wrote:
perek wrote:How long would it take for a small one to outgrow a 55G tank?
I have no idea...
The real question is whether it is any chance of one being able to invest in a 300 gallon marine tank within a few years time...
I would just trade down when he got too big.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:27 pm
by Woland
$)nono

Actually giving such a fish away!!?

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:08 pm
by perek
Woland wrote:$)nono

Actually giving such a fish away!!?
Why not trade a big fish for a little fish? :?:

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:10 pm
by Fahakaman
wow that looks great

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:42 am
by Woland
perek wrote:
Woland wrote:$)nono

Actually giving such a fish away!!?
Why not trade a big fish for a little fish? :?:
Because Puffers have personalities.
In my book it would be like giving taking in a puppy or kitten, knowing that I will have to give it away after a few years because of my inability to house it.
IMO; if you take on a pet, you should really be in it for the long run.

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:38 am
by perek
Woland wrote:
perek wrote:
Woland wrote:$)nono

Actually giving such a fish away!!?
Why not trade a big fish for a little fish? :?:
Because Puffers have personalities.
In my book it would be like giving taking in a puppy or kitten, knowing that I will have to give it away after a few years because of my inability to house it.
IMO; if you take on a pet, you should really be in it for the long run.
Cows have personalities, but I am sure that you eat them.

Plus, I POSSIBLY might be able to house the little fella by then, because I will be out of college and HOPEFULLY gainfully employed.

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:35 pm
by Tihsho
This sounds like its going to end as the pulp fiction 'pig personality' scene...

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:45 pm
by lisalisa
perek wrote:Cows have personalities, but I am sure that you eat them.
Don't start trouble for the sake of it, please. It is my opinion as well that taking on a PET, not food, knowing you can not house them properly is irresponsible. I'm not getting into a debate on animal personalities or the moral consequences of animal consumption. Not the place for it at all.

Moving on folks!