ID needed - sick puffer - new to forum

Post by **Pufferpunk** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:10 pm

I highly suggest getting this puffer into high-end BW, as soon as pposible. I'd stick w/the 1.002 add FW B-S & in a few days the SG to 1.005, by raising it .002/week. Be sure to do a 90% water change before adding the B-S & add it directly to your filter.

puffer_puff · Post by **puffer_puff** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:10 pm

Phaedrus wrote:a ceylon would have larger bands accross the top, where as the GSP is more leopard spotted.

Please see my last post. I guess it was my thinking that a Green Puffer can also be spotted, and we then have a GSP (note the order of the letters), while the other one is a SGP.

What else is in your community tank?

Tetras, rasboras, a danio, fanning shrimp, Amano shrimp, an elephant-nose fish, a dragon goby, a pleco, breeding feeder guppies, etc.

Moving over a filter or filter media, and doing water changes should be enough to get the levels under control, that way you don't have to risk the community tank at all.

This final paragraph is the most helpful, as it tells me what should be a sufficient amount of compensation for my mistake.

puffer_puff · Post by **puffer_puff** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 10:12 pm

I now see that my confusion was based on the GSP vs. SGP distinction--I see now that they are one and the same.

perek · Post by **perek** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:32 am

I hate to sound rude, but that certainly doesnt appear to be a GSP. I have never seen that color/pattern on any common species. There are no spots for one, and its body shape is incorrect for a GSP. Unless its really really sick.

Phaedrus · Post by **Phaedrus** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:50 am

I think the confusion comes from the fact it's a very mature GSP. If you look at the pics in the article PP linked you can see the patern is very close.

I wish the pufferlist had a wider sampling of pictures for each type of puffer. A single picture doesn't accurately capture the wide range of patern and color variations.

Post by **Pufferpunk** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 2:16 am

Your dragon goby belongs in BW, although I definately wouldn't keep w/a mature GSP. Say good-by to all your shrimp & probably smaller tetras & slower-moving fish like the elephant nose, if you were to move your puffer in w/them!

Perek, Body shape & shape or number of spots are different in many GSPs. Heck, look at all the body shapes & colors we come in!

puffer_puff · Post by **puffer_puff** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:11 pm

Thank you all, especially Phaedrus and Pufferpunk (listed alphabetically, as you were both very helpful, and I do not want to choose an order).

My Green Spotted Puffer seems to be doing well (for 19 hours now).

I was not able to find any Bio-spira; however, I did three 75%-90% water changes yesterday to get the SG down, and then hung filters from my other tanks on this tank, for a total filtering power of over 20 times the water volume per hour!

Thanks again.
puffer_puff

Phaedrus · Post by **Phaedrus** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:15 pm

20x turnover is decent. A lot of people use and recommend twice that or more.

Oh yes, I completely forgot to mention earlier that you can use Seachem Prime to help neutralize and detoxify the ammonia and nitrite.

Prime + water changes + your added filtration should help a lot.

Also, think about a tank upgrade. Such a large fish needs at LEAST 30g and would be most happy in 50-60g (or more

).

lisalisa · Post by **lisalisa** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:22 pm

I agree, I like my puffs in big tanks.

puffer_puff · Post by **puffer_puff** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:32 pm

I made a mistake in the mathâ€”it's an over 40x turnover rate that I have.

I had used Seachem Prime, but thought that it was actually a bad thing to use it because I would want some ammonia to be present to help with colonizing the filters. However, I then realised that once the water was freshwater again, detoxifying the ammonia, etc. was a good thing as the other filters would already have been seeded.

I wasn't just saying that it's in its current tank temporarily (I had said that it's for two weeks). I'm going to pick up a 38-gallon I won on eBay in less than two weeks.

puffer_puff · Post by **puffer_puff** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:12 pm

My puffer is doing very well.
It's eating shell-on shrimp and crayfish and ghost shrimp and snails, and is very responsive and active in general.

Thank you both once again, Phaedrus and Pufferpunk!

Phaedrus · Post by **Phaedrus** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:21 pm

Post by **Pufferpunk** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:28 am

Glad to hear! Another puffer saved!

puffer_puff · Post by **puffer_puff** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 11:40 am

A puffer saved is a puffer earned.

puffer_puff · Post by **puffer_puff** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:36 pm

Pufferpunk wrote:Yours is a green spotted puffer, T nigroviridis.

Pufferpunk, you had me convinced for a while, but I now strongly believe that you were incorrect when you identified my (now deceased) puffer as a green-spotted puffer.

Please go to the page http://coralbbs.twbbs.org/cgi-bin/forums.cgi?forum=51 and look at the images at the "Tetraodon nigroviridis" link. That's a green-spotted puffer. Then compare those to both my specimen (found at the top of this thread) and to the images on the same page (the one I just directed you to, above) in the listing immediately after the T. nigroviridis linkâ€”the only one without a Latin/scientific name. The first picture on this page is the one most similar to the pictures of my puffer. You should see immediately that my puffer is the same puffer as the one at the link that doesn't have a Latin name. (If you need more pictures of my deceased puffer for comparison, please see my photos uploaded the second time the fish was sick at http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/vie ... php?t=3931).

I am convinced my puffer was one of theseâ€”it was not the standard green-spotted puffer. I wouldn't have bought it in the first place had I thought it was a green-spotted puffer. The store at which I bought him imports all sorts of oddballs. Weird fish. Large fish. New fish (to the trade). My fish.

That said, it may not have been a good thing to have this fish in low-end brackish waterâ€”especially when it was sickâ€”as it may have been a freshwater fish. And that said, I still am grateful for the help I received when the fish was sick.

Now, can anyone read the foreign-language text at the URL given above? How would you translate this species's name into English?

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