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Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:30 pm
by martini57
Yeah I'm thinking about looking into that. Since it was visible to the naked eye, it has to be a tapeworm of some kind. Metronidazole and praziquantel won't effect any kind of nematode, to my knowledge at least. I'll do some research and see what I come up with.
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 8:19 pm
by martini57
I went to dinner and came back home and she was on top of this rock structure and she was completely curled in and dark and breathing hard and rapidly. 0/0/20 Amm/ITE/ATE temp 80.9. I am assuming it is from the dying worms but is there anything I can do to help her?
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:31 pm
by Pufferpunk
Nitrate of 20 might be a little stressful. Is she in BW?
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:43 pm
by martini57
Yes, the sg says 1.003 as of right now but I'm not entirely sure I trust it to be honest. It seems very finicky. But regardless that's what is says
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:44 pm
by martini57
And all of the pet stores are closed so I can't go check it anywhere tonight
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:00 pm
by martini57
She looks like she is wasting away. She won't eat anything except bloodworms, and even then she is really picky about them. She is having really jerky movements and sleeping all of the time. I'm really at a loss for what to do at this point
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:53 pm
by Pufferpunk
Sometimes they are just too far gone to save.

Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:42 pm
by martini57
I think I am going to try tube feeding her. I am going to have to use clove oil to sedate her though, that's the only thing I have access to right now. For some reason the search function won't work for the forum, it keeps saying some error. I know it's probably posted somewhere else on here but what dose should I use?
I am very stubborn, so I am not giving up until I have exhausted all options. Caring for sick animals is what I do for a living. What should I feed her though? Something more nutritious than bloodworms I would assume. And since she will be sedated I can use anything I guess.
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:35 pm
by Pufferpunk
I absolutely would NOT use clove oil on a sickly fish.
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2014 3:13 pm
by martini57
What exactly should I do then?
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:47 pm
by martini57
She died yesterday
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:57 pm
by Pufferpunk
Sorry to say I am not surprised.

Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:23 pm
by martini57
I wish I knew what happened though. everyone else is fine, water is fine.
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:50 pm
by Welch4
Sorry for your loss. Its hard especially when these little guys have so much personality. Do you plan on getting another F8?
Re: pale f8, lethargic, help please!!
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 9:11 pm
by martini57
I've thought about it, the problem is that the ones that I got were really tiny, and I ordered them offline because none of the stores around me had any. Of course now they have them, but they are at least 5 times the size of the one that I have. I got them from thatpetplace.com and they still have some in stock and I can call tomorrow to see what size they are, but then I will have to pay to have them shipped again. When I originally ordered them, I only ordered 2 and they sent me 3 because they were so small and weren't the size advertised on the website. And now I only have 1 left, the first one died the night I got it probably from sepsis, and then this last one died yesterday after all efforts to save her. I talked to all my Lfs and they called the suppliers and they don't have any small figure 8's. And I don't want to pay for shipping again, it's expensive