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Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:42 pm
by Pufferpunk
How do they look? I haven't seen a single SSP that didn't develop ich or velvet, after being introduced to a new tank.

Water parameters?

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:59 pm
by Nikoo
One looks very healthy, he eats a lot. The second one is eating too but his eyes are not so clear as the other ones. And the thirt one looks healthy but isnt eating.
So you think that they just need more time to adapt to the new tank?

I'll post water parameters tomorrow!

Can you help me with my other previous questions too?

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:31 pm
by bertie 83
They will glass surf for a while and it will drive you insane. This can be reduced by adding fast flow along the front of the aquarium, these guys love to swim fast and hard. Any uncooked seafood is fine, the crunchier the better. Give them time and they will settle

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:48 am
by Nikoo
I just got a hydor korolia 900 powerhead. Together with my cristalprofi 1501e filter I should have a 2400 liter/h (635g/h) waterflow.

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:37 am
by RTR
Many wild-caught fish have to be "trained" to aquarium feeding. You have to be persistent until they learn to recognize "food".

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:33 am
by Nikoo
And how can I do that best?

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:25 pm
by RTR
Try co-feeding the crushed/cracked snail at the same time as some live brine shrimp. Brine shrimp tend to be nutritionally poor, but the flavor is apparently irresistible.

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 7:59 am
by Nikoo
I am alrdy lookin for MS 222 because it won't be easy to find here in Belgium.
Someone suggested me a place where i can buy Phenoxyethanol. Does this work too?

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:52 am
by Nikoo
Anyone? Because i don't want to use cloive oil and i can't find any MS222.

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:31 am
by Pufferpunk
IDK anything about that drug. MS222 (Finquel) is used specifically for fish. I believe there are some in Europe using a koi sedative. Try searching for that here.

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:28 pm
by tford92
http://www.pharmaqaqua-webshop.co.uk/pr ... SubCatID=2

In Jan 2014, I purchased Ms 222 (Tricaine) in the UK here... hope this helps!

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:42 pm
by PufferGhoti
we have had our SAPs for close to a year now, they were picky eaters but the key is high flow as they seem to like high currents. For food we try to provide a variety of seafood. minishrimps work very well (Asian supermarket freezer section), pieces of langoustine with shell on them. cuttlefish etc.. find a good seafood importer... we also get leftovers of lobster preps from the local supper market for free

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:22 pm
by Nikoo
Do you think that i have enough current? 635g/h in a 90 gallon tank.

My SAPs look happy, they eat snails if i crush them. It seems like they can't get through the shell if i dont crush them.
In 2 months i'll be able to get 2cm crabs as food, i'm curious if they will like it.

And 2 of my saps are also eating sera vipachips.
http://www.sera.de/en/products/in_categ ... chips.html
Is this bad for them?

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:43 pm
by bertie 83
They will soon learn to crunch, even small saps can crunch a snail. They just need to realise there is food inside before they work for it.

Re: Advise SAP

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:26 pm
by Nikoo
Do you think the vipachips are good food?
They are very hard and all 3 saps eat them now. It takes them around 20 min to eat them because they can't bite parts of it at the start.